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His Majesty Donald Trump?

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mae13 Mon 17-Mar-25 19:09:41

I thought the War of Independence was to break free of a Parliament far away and, more importantly, to get away from Monarchy.
Now the US is in the tyrannical grip of HRH King Donald.
How did that happen?

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:00:15

I think Imarounds post above which describes the psychology of groups who have become enraptured by a "strong man who will save us" cult is enlightening.

People aren't stupid, or nazis, but the desire to want "Saving" over rides fact checks and inconvenient information against that prevailing ideology. Misinformation is rife, but a lot of people aren't that politically interested to check it out.

I don't call voters stupid or fascist but feel its OK to use fascist to describe the words/policies/actions of leaders - with explanations

AGAA4 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:06:20

I think Trump has always been envious of royalty and to be King of America would be his ideal.
(King) Trump already believes that he doesn't have to answer to anyone for his actions.

nanna8 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:20:48

I suppose his son will be his successor then. Wouldn’t surprise me .

LovesBach Tue 18-Mar-25 10:21:32

What a refreshing difference to hear Mark Carney yesterday; an educated, intelligent, calm and patriotic politician. Listening to his reasonable and reasoned responses to the press, I reflected that Canada has made a wise choice.

Babs03 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:22:00

Frugola

Has nobody noticed how he has now decorated the famous Oval Office fireplace with twirly gold decorations? They weren't there during Zelensky's visit. They have appeared since. Very ROYAL-LOOKING!

Just wait until he gets a gold horse drawn carriage to get around in. Might sound ‘out there’ but compared to some things Trump has done recently I think that might be the least ridiculous.

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:43:36

I noticed the chairs -very King Louis style. But Mar-o Lago looks like that too. I associate it with an over ostentatious display of wealth.

Politico calls it "Trumps dictator Chic"

www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/trump-style-dictator-autocrats-design-214877/

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:45:52

"This, of course, is a startlingly un-American idea. The Trump look is miles from the architectural tradition of Washington, D.C., a city kept deliberately low-rise in its center, and whose neoclassical public buildings evoke stability and trustworthiness through their restraint.

From the White House to the monuments, the American capital was designed to avoid Europe’s autocratic excesses, projecting a message of simplicity, democracy and egalitarianism—precisely the opposite of the new brand in town."

Frugola Tue 18-Mar-25 10:50:17

Wyllow3

Thank you for this interesting information.

Frugola Tue 18-Mar-25 10:51:28

Wyllow3 that was sincere not sarcastic!

Wyllow3 Tue 18-Mar-25 10:55:29

🙂 The many pictures in the article showing similar styles amongst the worst dictators in Europe are very telling!

Babs03 Tue 18-Mar-25 11:28:51

They obviously all fantasise about being monarchs with absolute rule, belonging to a royal dynasty and so living the palatial lifestyle to the max.

Luckygirl3 Tue 18-Mar-25 12:04:18

I watched the first episode of School Swap on Channel 4 simply because I hoped it might provide an insight into the American way of life - although of course it is very huge and probably different in different places.

What jumped out at me was.....

- the casual attitude to guns
- the mindless affinity to Christianity with seemingly no depth or substance
- the emphasis on competitiveness and sport and teh need to win/be top dog
- the superficial bonhomie
- the racism
- the need to be part of a tribe.

I guess some of this goes towards understanding the mindset that allows a subhuman like Trump to receive the popular vote.

pascal30 Tue 18-Mar-25 13:23:37

LovesBach

What a refreshing difference to hear Mark Carney yesterday; an educated, intelligent, calm and patriotic politician. Listening to his reasonable and reasoned responses to the press, I reflected that Canada has made a wise choice.

I couldn't agree more...

Rula Tue 18-Mar-25 13:25:02

And he's very easy on the eye

pascal30 Tue 18-Mar-25 13:27:57

nanna8

I suppose his son will be his successor then. Wouldn’t surprise me .

Which son? I imagine his youngest would be his choice

imaround Tue 18-Mar-25 13:47:27

What a fascinating article Wyllow, thank you!

You nailed it Luckygirl.

LovesBach Tue 18-Mar-25 15:59:29

Rula

And he's very easy on the eye

Isn't he just.

Babs03 Tue 18-Mar-25 16:13:20

Rula

And he's very easy on the eye

Yep. Canada seem to excel in this, first dishy Trudeau and now Carney.

suelld Wed 19-Mar-25 14:01:06

Luckygirl3

I watched the first episode of School Swap on Channel 4 simply because I hoped it might provide an insight into the American way of life - although of course it is very huge and probably different in different places.

What jumped out at me was.....

- the casual attitude to guns
- the mindless affinity to Christianity with seemingly no depth or substance
- the emphasis on competitiveness and sport and teh need to win/be top dog
- the superficial bonhomie
- the racism
- the need to be part of a tribe.

I guess some of this goes towards understanding the mindset that allows a subhuman like Trump to receive the popular vote.

Ditto… and agree wholeheartedly!

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Mar-25 14:38:10

Surely a definite slice of life in the USA but also so many different ones?

Etoile2701 Wed 19-Mar-25 14:47:19

I despair!

Chocolatelovinggran Wed 19-Mar-25 14:53:39

It's a country so vast and with so many different climates and histories- difficult for any British native to understand. This is reflected in the differing statutes- some states have the death penalty, for example, and some do not.
I would suggest that the views of many Californians might be at odds with some people in the Midwest,or Florida.

Wyllow3 Wed 19-Mar-25 15:09:11

And New Yorkers, and the East Coast traditions....and those who welcome "difference" as regards race and cultures...."....

maybe school swap could swap with a variety....

There are so many "Americas" coming out other fiction and non fiction on Netflix for example.

AuntieE Wed 19-Mar-25 16:31:47

mae13

I thought the War of Independence was to break free of a Parliament far away and, more importantly, to get away from Monarchy.
Now the US is in the tyrannical grip of HRH King Donald.
How did that happen?

It happened basically because Trump mounted an election campaign that appealed to different groups in the US: those who either have no time or inclination or perhaps lack the ability to study the details of the electoral programme.

Those who have always as a matter of principle voted for his party, and don't look too closely at the man running for president,

Those who were genuinely impressed by his first term of office.

Plus the fact that the opposition did not manage to put forward a good candidate in time.

wibblywobblywobblebottom Wed 19-Mar-25 16:36:17

Don't forget the obesity.