Nothing but nothing, can excuse Israel breaking the cease-fire in Gaza

The video of his intentions in 2001 is not a conspiracy theory, however. Neither is the fact that repeated warnings were given, to the very top, and that the Head of the Army services resigned because Netanyahu chose to ignore.

The only question is about whether the attack was allowed to happen to enable him to do what he had been planning since so long, and clearly since 2001. We will probably never know- but it is nt surprising, in the circumstances, that some have come to that conclusion.

It's not going to happen until Hamas, Netanyahu and Trumpington have all gone.

The 12th of Never.

Oreo

Well, since the government of Gaza state it wants to wipe out all Jews from the planet I guess BN was responding in kind.
No country around Gaza wants Palestinians, they will have to stay in Gaza with a very, very different government for the future.

That is precisely what the plan developed by Egypt, adopted by most Arab states and supported by the EU would have done, but Israel and the US rejected it.

Gazans would have stayed where they were and the land would have been governed by a technocrat government without Hamas.

There would have had to be further negotiations about the West Bank. The Israeli government is currently pouring in loads of money to encourage and support Israeli settlers on Palestinian land.

Conspiracy theories aren't really helping, Claremont, when there is so much anguish on both sides.

Thanks for explanation Rosie. Yes, it was Israeli land- but in the circumstances, with all the warnings and intelligence of an imminent attack, it was truly irresponsible in the extreme to hold the festival so close. And I can understand that some wonder what the justification was for this.

Boz

To try and find a justification for the October massacre is appalling. Innocent people were kidnapped or hacked to death by drug-crazed terrorists. A medieval massacre that earned a full military response from a modern nation.

No-one, but no-one, is trying to find justification, at all.

What some of us are saying, as many Jews in Israel and around the world, is that Netanyahu had all the intelligence, sophisticated equipment, military and otherwise, to stop it happening.

He didn't. Top people in the IDF resigned because of this, and made the accusations themselves, that he didn't take intelligence and warnings seriously. And others are going beyond this and saying it was deliberate to allow him to finally do what he had planned for so long, but needed 'an excuse'. We won't know if this was true. But we do know, without any doubt, is that it was his plan for a very long time- and that he didn't take warnings and intelligence from the very top, seriously and didn't plan to respond and stop this attack, as he could have done.

Claremont

Oreo

Maremia

Victim blaming? Someone made that crazy decision, and those poor folk suffered. Yes, I would still like to know if anyone has had the courage to admit it, and explain why they put those youngsters into such danger.

FGS!
It was Israeli land! Stop with the conspiracy theories .

What was, Gaza and the West Bank? No it was not.

Your reply doesn't make sense. Oreo is referring to where the music festivals were held, and that was definitely Israeli land. Maremia seems to think there was something conspiratorial about the chosen location.
The people, men, women and children who were murdered, raped and taken as hostages were all on Israeli land.

A leaked video from 2001 shows Israeli PM Netanyahu talking about how Israel intentionally strikes Palestinians “painfully”, how he deceived the US to break the Oslo Accords, and how Americans will always support Israel if it faces backlash.

Well, since the government of Gaza state it wants to wipe out all Jews from the planet I guess BN was responding in kind.
No country around Gaza wants Palestinians, they will have to stay in Gaza with a very, very different government for the future.

To try and find a justification for the October massacre is appalling. Innocent people were kidnapped or hacked to death by drug-crazed terrorists. A medieval massacre that earned a full military response from a modern nation.

Whitewavemark2

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 16:23:30
Netanyahu wants to clear the planet of Palestinians.

When and where. did he say this ?

It is definitely recorded. It was before he became PM. I can find it if you want, but I’m sure you can find it.

Yes, and I posted the link and video right here.

Oreo

Maremia

Victim blaming? Someone made that crazy decision, and those poor folk suffered. Yes, I would still like to know if anyone has had the courage to admit it, and explain why they put those youngsters into such danger.

FGS!
It was Israeli land! Stop with the conspiracy theories .

What was, Gaza and the West Bank? No it was not.

Boz

The big fight here is, of course Western v. Eastern values - America and Iran. It is a proxy war that those with the bigger weapons will win.

We have to fervently hope that those with Western values and not Eastern terrorists ones will win.

Maremia

Stop being in denial Orea, the festival was moved very close to the border. If that was for innocent reasons, what were those logistical and innocent reasons? You don't know do you ,or you would have put us right about this detail.

The two music festivals were thought to be on ideal ground as the main problem was thought to be noise and nuisance.
A few IDF officers thought it could be a problem, not from over 3,000 hamas supporters but from possible missiles.
To try and maintain conspiracy theories around this is beyond the pale.

The big fight here is, of course Western v. Eastern values - America and Iran. It is a proxy war that those with the bigger weapons will win.

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 16:23:30
Netanyahu wants to clear the planet of Palestinians.

When and where. did he say this ?

It is definitely recorded. It was before he became PM. I can find it if you want, but I’m sure you can find it.

Stop being in denial Orea, the festival was moved very close to the border. If that was for innocent reasons, what were those logistical and innocent reasons? You don't know do you ,or you would have put us right about this detail.

Anniebach

Again we have reached the best form of defence is attack

As usual 🤔 but posters should reserve their ire for hamas not posters on GN.

Anniebach... actions speak louder than words. He is showing us his intention.

Again we have reached the best form of defence is attack

Allsorts, no, all Jews do not believe that. Just read all the posts on Facebook and other media where Jews are speaking out against Netanyahu. The sad thing is all Jews will suffer from the rise just now in anti-semitism. If I want to visit my friend's synagogue, I now have to go through a series of security checks.

Quote Maremia Fri 21-Mar-25 16:23:30
Netanyahu wants to clear the planet of Palestinians.

When and where. did he say this ?

Maremia

Victim blaming? Someone made that crazy decision, and those poor folk suffered. Yes, I would still like to know if anyone has had the courage to admit it, and explain why they put those youngsters into such danger.

FGS!
It was Israeli land! Stop with the conspiracy theories .

Personal to whom?

I’m not personal to you growstuff neither do I notice your postings enough to enjoy ‘sniping’ at you.
Asking a poster to justify their religion is a no-no and in my book is both personal, emotional and unfair.