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Frankie Dettori

(31 Posts)
Georgesgran Wed 19-Mar-25 19:00:10

I’ve just read that this jockey has filed for bankruptcy. He’s earned £152M for Owners (gets a percentage) and personally was valued at £18M. How on Earth does someone overspend to that extent, or do they simply take their eye off the ball and let finances just run riot?

Cossy Wed 19-Mar-25 19:06:28

Possibly a very poor accountant or not paying the correct taxes for years and years.

Horrible person that I am, I have little sympathy for him!

Grannylynj Wed 19-Mar-25 19:20:54

Me neither

Babs03 Wed 19-Mar-25 19:23:39

Good lord, that is a lot of money to mismanage!!
I have very little sympathy either Cossy.
Most people are 'just managing' on a fraction of that amount and can't afford to take their eye off the ball, every penny counts.
Am sure some rich horsy types will help him out.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 19-Mar-25 19:28:50

Ripped off somewhere along the line? It happens to footballers too. They put their trust in professionals assuming they have their best interests at heart. Must be devastating to be told otherwise.

Marydoll Wed 19-Mar-25 19:43:40

This is aquote from the BBC website.

Veteran jockey Frankie Dettori says he feels "embarrassed" after he filed for bankruptcy having been unable to reach agreement with His Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a long-running case of tax avoidance.

I have no sympathy for anyone engaged in tax avoidance.

JaneJudge Wed 19-Mar-25 19:45:42

he would have been evading tax not avoiding it in order for this to happen

Marydoll Wed 19-Mar-25 19:49:17

It makes my blood boil.

Georgesgran Wed 19-Mar-25 19:50:28

I’ve no sympathy either - I’ll bet most of his assets are in his wife and children’s’ names.

It often seems that bankruptcy for the rich, is not quite the same as for the poor, who are left potless? I remember a female singer, declared bankrupt roaring away from the Court in her brand new Porsche!

Coconutty Wed 19-Mar-25 19:50:58

He had a big drug problem didn’t he? No excuses for running up a he tax bill though. He clearly made the money to owe that much and it’s disgraceful to just declare bankruptcy and not pay

AGAA4 Wed 19-Mar-25 19:59:03

I pay my taxes and so should he.

crazyH Wed 19-Mar-25 20:01:22

He probably had an accountant - where was he ?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 19-Mar-25 20:03:47

It often seems that bankruptcy for the rich, is not quite the same as for the poor

True Georgesgran it doesn’t seem to have embarrassed or affected Mr & Mrs Middleton much (of Party Pieces).

I’d be mortified!

Allira Wed 19-Mar-25 20:06:03

Marydoll

This is aquote from the BBC website.

Veteran jockey Frankie Dettori says he feels "embarrassed" after he filed for bankruptcy having been unable to reach agreement with His Majesty's Revenue and Customs over a long-running case of tax avoidance.

I have no sympathy for anyone engaged in tax avoidance.

Me neither but I did rather like him
Oh dear, Frankie, you should have kept your eye on the odds.

Cateq Thu 20-Mar-25 14:26:50

I abhor tax avoiders, society needs everyone to contribute their fair share. DH and AC’s are all higher rate tax payers, but if they complain they get short shift from me. You’ve got to earn it to pay and I never earned enough to have to worry about it.

missdeke Thu 20-Mar-25 15:26:45

Like most people I too abhor tax evaders. But playing devil's advocate I know full well if I was earning a lot of money I would have to rely on others to deal with it for me. Each time I receive a council tax bill, they send me notification with lots of figures in it and state at the end, ask me to contact them if I disagree with their figures. I might disagree if I could understand what they had written in the first place. Finace calculations are just beyond me.

NotAGran55 Thu 20-Mar-25 15:54:36

I don’t know what the Middletons are doing on this thread, they aren’t bankrupt?

icanhandthemback Thu 20-Mar-25 16:29:36

NotAGran55

I don’t know what the Middletons are doing on this thread, they aren’t bankrupt?

Their limited company went into Liquidation which is very different from being bankrupt. With a limited company it is the company that is technically bankrupt; the directors do not have a personal liability for a company's debts unless they have personally guaranteed them.

Allira Thu 20-Mar-25 16:31:47

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^It often seems that bankruptcy for the rich, is not quite the same as for the poor^

True Georgesgran it doesn’t seem to have embarrassed or affected Mr & Mrs Middleton much (of Party Pieces).

I’d be mortified!

I'm sure they are upset and their firm was typical of the many businesses in the hospitality sector which suffered because of Covid lockdowns. Not just the obvious ones like pubs, restaurants, travel companies, gyms etc, some of those firms which supplied them were forced into administration and people lost their jobs.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Mar-25 17:05:31

I was a regular customer of Party Pieces as were my AC and many friends.

Everything for a child’s or any special occasion from the same supplier, lots of different themes and all good quality.

I imagine like many sports, pop or media stars Frankie Dettori relied on accountants and financial advisers.

Taxes have to be paid, unfortunately I cannot see any UK Government closing all the legal loopholes.

Oldbat1 Thu 20-Mar-25 17:42:48

Not very sympathetic at all. Just pay your taxes like ordinary folk do. Accountants have a lot to answer for quite frankly by giving advice of how to manipulate taxes due (badly in many cases).

Barleyfields Thu 20-Mar-25 17:51:51

He probably relied on some sort of tax avoidance scheme which ‘professionals’ offer, if there was a long-running battle with HMRC. He won’t be the first to have found out that the scheme didn’t work and I doubt he’ll be the last. He would have done well to have just paid the tax when it fell due, instead of which he will also have been hit with penalties and interest. I have no sympathy.

NotAGran55 Thu 20-Mar-25 17:55:53

Just to be pedantic, Party Pieces didn’t go into liquidation it went into administration.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 20-Mar-25 18:01:05

Just googled Party Pieces, it is still going, not sure who owns it?

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 20-Mar-25 18:06:12

Barleyfields

He probably relied on some sort of tax avoidance scheme which ‘professionals’ offer, if there was a long-running battle with HMRC. He won’t be the first to have found out that the scheme didn’t work and I doubt he’ll be the last. He would have done well to have just paid the tax when it fell due, instead of which he will also have been hit with penalties and interest. I have no sympathy.

I think some BBC presenters got caught out in this way? They classed themselves as ‘self employed’ somehow … then a few got stung for high tax bills.