Small boat migrants to the UK are 36% UP on this time last year.

People don’t answer a question when it is obvious that the poster hasn’t actually properly read their previous responses. If she/he had, they would know that nobody at all said that they are happy for ‘unlimited boatloads of immigrants to keep on arriving in the UK*. What people have said is that they want a legal route to enable people to apply legitimately for asylum in the UK. Summary - ask a dumb question, nobody will answer.

petra

CariadAgain
They are not going outside their remit. They don’t discriminate as to who they pick up. If you are in trouble and send out a MayDay call, they will be there.

Yes, that's why we support them. For those in peril on the sea.

What people have said is that they want a legal route to enable people to apply legitimately for asylum in the UK

But that’s not going to happen is it.
So back in the real world - what do you want to see happening?

Yes, Kandinsky, it will happen. A pound to a penny that is part of the future plans to control entry to the UK.

Surely we need to reduce the pull factor so the irregular migrants prefer to stay in France. Swap those hotel rooms for tents on remote Scottish islands. This will reduce costs and the incentive to land on treasure Island.

Casdon

Yes, Kandinsky, it will happen. A pound to a penny that is part of the future plans to control entry to the UK.

So why has it not happened already?
It has been 6 years so far?

fancythat

Casdon

Yes, Kandinsky, it will happen. A pound to a penny that is part of the future plans to control entry to the UK.

So why has it not happened already?
It has been 6 years so far?

New government, new approach. I don’t think it will happen immediately, but it is inevitable, and will be accompanied by faster processing, and deportation for those who are not eligible.

Kandinsky why do you say a legal route isn’t going to happen?
Why ever not? Applying through a British embassy abroad for instance coukd work.
I would like to see a change of attitude from those who lump all ‘furriners’ together as nere do wells and recommend a recent tv programme called Go back to where you Came From, which is about 6 Brits, majority of them happy to say they were strongly anti immigrant and frankly racist.

Economic Migrants and asylum seekers are people just as we are. I know many who are decent, hardworking people who have been able to contribute a lot to their new country, which happens to be Germany, 🇩🇪

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Surely we need to reduce the pull factor so the irregular migrants prefer to stay in France. Swap those hotel rooms for tents on remote Scottish islands. This will reduce costs and the incentive to land on treasure Island.

Hotel owners in the NW are happy to take the dollar.

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

silverlining48

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

31,000 since Labour got in, 🤣🤣

31,000 isn’t huge compared to most other countries. Numbers already been quoted up thread, numerous times.

Primrose53

silverlining48

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

31,000 since Labour got in, 🤣🤣

And your point is, Primrose53? There were 45,755 people in 2022. Please, just check out the figures from previous years before posting. We aren’t going to know if the numbers since July are significantly different to previous years and if so, why until after July 2025.

It is true that countries like France do take thousands of migrants.
The number wanting to come to the UK may appear huge because they are more visible - all converging on the coast around Calais.

However, I have heard that France isn't beyond telling migrants that life will be much easier for them in the UK in terms of a more generous welfare system, housing, more jobs, and more tolerance. So of course they are prepared to risk it.

Our generation has known a way of life that will never be the same going forward. So many different cultures are here now vying for jobs and housing. So many different languages and beliefs are changing British life as we have known it. There is no going back. Whether that is a bad thing or something to be celebrated depends on your point of view.

I neither agree or disagree with immigration in general
However we do not have the infrastructure in place to manage with such a rapidly increased and increasing numbers of people.
The Acute Hospital Trusts swamped by nos. Longer waiting lists.
Local Councils spend on Education, Housing, Social Services etc historically under pressure leading in cases to bankruptcy due to additional population pressures.
Courts, Policing services and prisons under pressure to cope.
I understand GPs are paid per capita so increased payment. > population appears to result in long GP/ Primary Care/ Dentist appointments or no NHS dentists appointments available
Greece and Italy in particular have been inundated.
Our voluntary RNLI boats face danger. RN Border Forces pulled away from other essential duties. Topical as alleged foreign ships and navy trawling the Uk coast causing mayhem.
It seems a no brainer the UK no longer, not past present govt. gov’ts are unable to live in this situation.
Therefore the population as this is a democratic country are in the best position to change the immigration crisis.
Stop the sniping. This site will be ruined. Democracy! Or play nicely children.

When we refuse asylum and try to deport that’s the cue for the lawyers, rubbing their hands with glee because they take on these vexatious claims - funded by us AGAIN via Legal Aid! It’s a right old merry go round isn’t t it? Laughable if it wasn’t t so dispiriting.

silverlining48

FGT Most stay in France and other European countries . It’s a tiny proportion who risk their lives in tiny overfilled boats to come here.
The pull factors are probably

family or friends are here
The language as many already speak English and staying elsewhere means learning yet another new language
The feeling that British are decent people
Possibly because we don’t have ID cards as most other European countries do, it might be easier to get a job,

How about cash?

Though I dont know what they receive in other countries.
I will look it up later.

Casdon

fancythat

Casdon

Yes, Kandinsky, it will happen. A pound to a penny that is part of the future plans to control entry to the UK.

So why has it not happened already?
It has been 6 years so far?

New government, new approach. I don’t think it will happen immediately, but it is inevitable, and will be accompanied by faster processing, and deportation for those who are not eligible.

I am fed up waiting for sometime never.

It's fun really isn't slagging off all immigrants, calling them names , assuming they are all cheeky buggars, that all lawyers are woke, suggesting they be shoved back.

Saves the bother of any critical thinking or empathy.

Skydancer

Our generation has known a way of life that will never be the same going forward. So many different cultures are here now vying for jobs and housing. So many different languages and beliefs are changing British life as we have known it. There is no going back. Whether that is a bad thing or something to be celebrated depends on your point of view.

SkyDancer
I’m afraid there’s no stopping the change in cultures mixing.
This will come about through global warming.
The tropics are in a precarious position as 40% of the world’s population live there.
Obviously this won’t happen in our time or our children’s. But it will happen.

www.canterbury.ac.nz/news-and-events/news/climate-explained--will-the-tropics-eventually-become-uninhabita#:~:text=In%20summary%2C%20while%20absolute%20temperatures,life%20challenging%2C%20but%20not%20impossible.

I think asylum seekers in France received around 7 euros a day. They get more if accommodation isn't provided.
My French friend apparently got very cross at the doctor's recently, because she has to pay at the "caisse" after her consultation whereas an asylum seeker had to just sign the exemption form - and that was after his getting seen by just turning up as well with no appointment.

Not all immigrants glasshalfempty just the ones who arrive on rubber dinghies via the Channel, who pay people smugglers. They arrive with next to nothing knowing the nice kind UK taxpayers will fund all their needs.

Even France despairs - their politicians say we are too gene.
That’s the pull factor.

I’ve just been reading on the BBC news about how Donald Trump deals with illegal arrivals.
His Homeland Security Secretary, Kristi Noem recently visited a prison in El Salvador which has agreed to take the US illegals.
I can’t honestly think of a more effective deterrent than the set up there.
Keir Starmer take note.

She then warned anyone thinking of entering the US illegally that they could end up there , describing it as one of the tools in their box.

Please contact call people "illegals"