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Why the silence over the Red Crescent killings?

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Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Apr-25 11:01:23

Or is it too awful to contemplate?

Wyllow3 Sat 12-Apr-25 18:47:09

lixy

The daughter of a close Israeli friend began her military service last week. She is 18. Military service is not optional.

I would in no way defend the lies and the covering up, but would ask you to remember that many Israeli soldiers are scared teenagers.

My sympathies for her. No one would condemn her. It's the people giving orders decide isnt it.

There are conscientious objectors, but not dealt with well.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Apr-25 18:29:28

I wonder how their mental health will suffer as they get older and understand the atrocities being carried out by their compatriots.

It is such a heavy burden.

lixy Sat 12-Apr-25 17:35:52

The daughter of a close Israeli friend began her military service last week. She is 18. Military service is not optional.

I would in no way defend the lies and the covering up, but would ask you to remember that many Israeli soldiers are scared teenagers.

Smileless2012 Sat 12-Apr-25 10:47:59

Too many to count probably AGA but we'll never know angry.

AGAA4 Sat 12-Apr-25 10:30:36

I wonder how many other lies the Israelis have told. I was appalled when I saw the ambulances with lights blazing being shot at by the IDF. They then said there were no lights on. They are just killers. Nobody is exempt.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 12-Apr-25 03:10:47

It is astonishing how events like this have no consequence.

Maremia Fri 11-Apr-25 18:41:56

Thanks silverlining48, Hind. Won't forget her name again.

silverlining48 Fri 11-Apr-25 18:08:38

Maremia the little girl you mention is, or was, called Hind and was 5 years old. Truly Shocking, but sadly forgotten, other than by her family. Another innocent victim of a one sided war.
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pascal30 Fri 11-Apr-25 15:28:58

Caleo

Pascal, I believe evil can't endure and a turning point is imminent.

I truly hope so Caleo

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Apr-25 13:05:10

“The sky is filled with planes, and the shelling is very intense.

Please keep us in your prayers, we really need them”

Caleo Fri 11-Apr-25 12:57:56

Pascal, I believe evil can't endure and a turning point is imminent.

Caleo Fri 11-Apr-25 12:54:46

caat.org.uk/
The Campaign Against The Arms Trade.

It's not necessary to be 'religious' to agree servicing an evil industry is an evil thing we do.

pascal30 Fri 11-Apr-25 12:48:17

The situation is made much worse because Trump so openly supports Netanyahu and presumably Starmer doesn't want to risk opposing Trump.. It's all so dishonest and violating Human Rights but Western Governments are much more concerned with economics..

Caleo Fri 11-Apr-25 12:35:21

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Maremia Thu 10-Apr-25 17:29:07

That, and the two Labour politicians being sent home.

Maremia Thu 10-Apr-25 17:27:58

Sometimes it takes one story to grip people's attention. I thought this would have happened when that wee girl calling for help from the car, and then the First Aiders going out to help, and all being killed, I thought that one would do it. Maybe this one.

Wyllow3 Thu 10-Apr-25 14:42:07

Probably has happened before, but now communications are so sophisticated that we know now.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 10-Apr-25 14:30:16

lixy

Not deliberate silence WWM2, just stunned by the enormity of it all.

This. What has happened to the world? sad angry

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Apr-25 08:41:22

People in Gaza are beginning to reach out directly to the world via SM.

It is all a bit harrowing tbh.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Apr-25 08:08:08

More from Rafif

A very difficult night….Rafif , my wife, and I couldn't sleep. We keep woking up terrified by the shelling. 💔😭😭.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 10-Apr-25 07:57:14

SM is absolutely awash with protest over Israel’s actions including many, many Jews who are disowning Israel.

When are governments going to listen?

lixy Thu 10-Apr-25 07:07:41

silverlining48

Very little I imagine Wyllow. I read there is little reported on their media because if there was surely most decent Israelis would be objecting to the casual killing of civilians, mostly women and children, going on day after day, week after week. Month after month and year after year.

Israelis have free access to the world media, as we do here in the UK, and so are aware of how their home news is reported outside of Israel.

The ‘decent Israelis’ that I know are appalled by all that has happened in the last year and a half but the over-riding desire is to have those being held hostage back. Until that happens the voice of decent people will be drowned out.
An Israeli friend said to me just the other day ‘We are Israeli Palestinian supporters but no-one believes that such a thing exists. No one supports Hamas or the IDF, but we all try to support each other.’

Meanwhile the diplomats keep on trying to find a way forward, so we cling on to the hope.

Rowantree Thu 10-Apr-25 02:23:38

Well, I'm incandescent with rage and have been since this latest genocide began. Israel does what it likes and knows it cannot be stopped. Palestinians are treated by them as 'untermenschen ' - just as Jewish people were treated by the Nazis. The parallels are there for all of us to see, rendering calls of 'Never Again ' each Holocaust Memorial Day utterly meaningless and hollow. Never Again means just that: for anyone, not just Jews. I speak as a second generation 'Kind' ( my father was a refugee from the Nazis via Kindertransport, who actively supported Palestinian rights until his death two years ago.

MayBee70 Wed 09-Apr-25 23:41:55

They said on TRIP that more aid workers have been killed in Gaza than the sum total of all the aid workers that have been killed throughout the world in decades sad.

silverlining48 Wed 09-Apr-25 22:21:19

Very little I imagine Wyllow. I read there is little reported on their media because if there was surely most decent Israelis would be objecting to the casual killing of civilians, mostly women and children, going on day after day, week after week. Month after month and year after year.