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Why is Trump is so badly wounded?

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 13-Apr-25 08:28:01

First his protectionist/isolationist policies are putting him outside of the general milieu of nations states.

The USA cannot go it alone, it simply does not have the resources.

His tariff announcement was a complete economic and geo-political game changer.

They brought the USA debt to near collapse, with the realisation that huge bond holders like China could and would exercise their power to bring the USA to its knees.

This has massive implications for Trumps planned big tax cuts next autumn and his ability to fund them through debt.

Trust in the USA has melted away, and very few people will be willing to buy US bonds as a secure bet.

In fact what has happened this week has massive implications for geo-politics in defence, soft power and willingness for countries to cooperate.

Trump has been a disaster for the USA

eazybee Tue 15-Apr-25 15:31:07

Trump is wounded because he believes his own publicity.

Elegran Tue 15-Apr-25 15:51:37

He is wrong in believing that the way he has done it will level the playing field, but there is no point telling him that, or telling his supporters, who think they will soon be in Shangri-La and that previous governments were deliberately keeping them poor.

DrWatson Wed 16-Apr-25 04:34:07

For Mae13, as someone said, nothing 'alleged' at all. He was caught on film, backstage at The Apprentice USA, seeing a girl walk past and said to a chum "Let's go grab some pussy, they love it".

In the sealed papers relating to his divorce from Ivana, one of the lawyers revealed her statement that Chump had raped her.

Oh, and the 'Stormy' trial last year, when he repeatedly said it was all a political show trial? Back in 2016, he was on film, several times over 5 or 6 weeks, gradually admitting to the whole thing, as more revelations appeared.

He is a racist, sexist, fraud, liar, conman and braggart. Mencken said (between the wars) >>>> "As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron". >>>> Exceptionally prophetic.

nanna8 Wed 16-Apr-25 04:50:48

I think he sees his main enemy as China and not the rest of us. He thinks if he consolidates America on its own it will become stronger ( I’d be pretty sure he is wrong) and more able to tackle all the trade and advantages that he thinks China has. He won’t win this one anymore than they could beat the Vietnamese back in the day. No Hope whatsoever but he will lose a lot of friends in the meantime. He doesn't read the room or at least he thinks the room consists of all his acolytes and loud supporters over there.

David49 Wed 16-Apr-25 06:57:42

Can the US isolate itself from the rest of us?.

Yes if it really wanted to, because it has the money the technology, and military power, a migrant workforce willing to work for low wages. Many other countries would be willing to send food and cheap goods for cash and buy their technology.

Europe would be much worse off if the US left NATO, the cost of defending ourselves against an aggressive Russia would be a real drag on our lifestyles. If the US withdrew from the Pacific, China would complete its domination of SE Asia and Australasia.

When the Trump chaos ends I believe the US will still be leading the western world, if that doesn’t happen I really will worry.

Wyllow3 Wed 16-Apr-25 10:16:26

The BBC verify article today says the US cant win the microchips battle - it would take so long to establish the manufacturing and the expertise in the USA and could never compete with the cost.