Will the Supreme Court protect Women's Rights?

Luminance

I've read the comments saying I sound like a "TRA" you know but that's not true at all. I don't know what I have said that makes anyone think that?

There are some not very nice people on this thread and they do like to pile on if you don’t agree .with them . It’s not a discussion but aggression . I had to take a break because God forbid you dare to express an opposing view .

No, I'm not responsible for hate speech, do people really feel it reasonable to be angry with myself about that when I also denounced hate speech against women?

Luminance

Doodledog Ha! Well, There doesn't seem to be too many people here that do know trans people no. It's little wonder that the propaganda spread about trans people has such a strong effect when people don't know them I suppose.

That's not what I said. I know transpeople myself - working in education I also come across non-binary and 'gender-fluid' people too - maybe more than in MH settings, I don't know? Or maybe the ones I work with are less 'fragile', so aren't in MH settings?

Not that it matters. I don't see the transpeople I know as representative of anything - why would they be, unless you view friends and colleagues or students as specimens. I just see them as people, who (like the other 99.95% of people) have some things in common and others that separate them from one another.

My point is that - maybe before your time on here? - we used to have a few regular posters who prefaced a lot of their points with 'According to all my trans friends. . .' and similar, which made it seem as though they sought out transpeople to befriend, which is a bit odd, surely? It's one thing to meet transpeople as normal members of society - in the workplace, as neighbours etc, but as the same people also pointed out that the 'fuss' was about a tiny minority of people, it puzzled me how those few people knew so many, unless they made a point of seeking them out. Just an observation, though 🤷‍♀️.

Luminance

I have no involvement whatsoever and have never said a single word to JK Rowling. No matter who it is you think I sound like.

I'll ask again - what colour is the sky on your planet, Luminance?

I find it all rather irrational. Are we here to argue or discuss?

What are you finding irrational?

Nobody, but nobody thinks you have said a word to JKR .

Why would you think they might think that? It's comments like that which are irrational. Has anyone ever suggested that thinking everything is about you is bad for your mental health?

Syracute, it isn’t a pile on, it’s a discussion. In discussions different views are shared as they are here

Luminance I’m trying to understand your posts but finding it increasingly difficult. At first glance I find your faux innocent face inability to give straight comments ‘interesting’

Luminance

I find it all rather irrational. Are we here to argue or discuss?

But your statements aren’t a discussion or an argument. They seem more a series of unconnected statements which don’t appear to make sense.
Incidentally, where is the evidence of the accusations you make of people saying you are TRA for example.
Or are your accusations just more light purple prose?

I remain quite unbothered. When people show me who they are I believe them.

In some circles there are a lot of concerns about how trans men will be impacted by this. According to the ruling they can be excluded from men's facilities or wards. This may mean they are excluded from women's safe spaces too because of their appearance. It may cause all sorts of issues if people see someone who appears male walking into a woman's facilities. How on earth the NHS, refuges and trans men themselves are supposed to overcome that I don't know. A whole section of biological women will not be able to enter safe spaces where their appearance may make other biological women feel uncomfortable. Quite a quandary I feel. How could this be resolved?

And your solution?

As I stated, I don't know. Perhaps we can think of something together?

When people show me who they are I believe them.

Now that sounds familiar.......

This is a question about long distant grand parents. Not sure where to post it. Help please?

It's probably best to start a new thread Water69. If you go to Active Discussions, scroll down to Chat or Ask A Gran, click on it and it gives you the option to start a new thread of your own.

Luminance

I remain quite unbothered. When people show me who they are I believe them.

Oh yes. So do I. And when I feel I’ve met them before I trust my instincts.

Carlotta

^When people show me who they are I believe them.^

Now that sounds familiar.......

Indeed. 😁

Luminance

I remain quite unbothered. When people show me who they are I believe them.

I have this déjà vu feeling.

I had these vague feelings and a good GN friend has helped clear the fog Perhaps we can 'all sit together' or is that just 'The Frog Song'? Oops no that was 'we all stand together'.

Yes indeed, so many of us recognising we’ve been here before

Deliberate obfuscation; deja vu indeed.

eazybee

Deliberate obfuscation; deja vu indeed.

Spot on

There are some not very nice people on this thread..... can't stand comments like this Syracute. If you're not prepared to be specific then probably better to say nothing.

Smileless2012

^There are some not very nice people on this thread.....^ can't stand comments like this Syracute. If you're not prepared to be specific then probably better to say nothing.

Syracute, have you ever thought of yourself as one those not very nice people, when you read your posts?