Virginia GIUFFRE - suicide

Churchview wrote:
"There is a whole world of power that uses people as they see fit and then discards them."

I wonder if your name means you are a churchgoer. I hope so because I like to think at least one pastor teaches commonsense principles.

Jaberwok - unless I misunderstood, the trafficking isn’t suggesting PA is a people trafficker but that she was trafficked by Maxwell and Epstein to have sex with their guests.

James Patterson, author, was amongst the first to see what was happening at Epstein’s home which was in the same area as Patterson. Patterson kept logs, reported his concerns about frequent visits by under age girls. The police investigation led to Epstein arrest and sentence. He was allowed freedom from the jail on a daily basis

money didn't solve her problems.

Money doesn’t repair broken people

She was living on the streets age 14, she didn’t know any other life

People, not on here, most certainly have suggested that Andrew was involved with trafficking and Paedophilia, neither of which is true. He behaved arrogantly and extremely foolishly, but not intentionally wickedly. He has certainly paid a heavy price.

Not as high as the price she has paid though.

Has her father paid any price

None of those who trafficked and abused those girls have really paid the price for their actions. As usual, the rich and powerful get away with it, and the grooming and abuse continues...

Oh No! Those men should be hanging their heads in shame.

Those poor children, I hope they have someone to love, protect and care for them.

RIP Virginia, you're at peace now.

Quote ViceVersa Sat 26-Apr-25 13:14:47
None of those who trafficked and abused those girls have really paid the price for their actions. As usual, the rich and powerful get away with it, and the grooming and abuse continues...

Was her father rich and powerful?

nanna8

Await conspiracy theories! Best to avoid dealing with members of the British royal family. A sad ending for a troubled lady.

I heard a conspiracy theory before I'd heard of VG's death!

I believe (not entirely sure) her father was employed at Mar-a-Lago and found his daughter a role as a masseuse, which is where she encountered Ghislaine Maxwell, another woman with a troubled childhood.
Never heard any mention of her mother.

I read that her father knew exactly what she was doing and escorted her to all her assignments. Shame on him.

Her father took her to the hotel where she sat reading about massage and it drew the attention of Maxwell

I wish with all my heart that Virginia can rest in peace too. Its also life- affirming reading all of these positive messages. Which send her love and not simply condemnation for the tragic, manipulated lifestyle, which ultimately destroyed her. 😔

Anniebach

Quote ViceVersa Sat 26-Apr-25 13:14:47
None of those who trafficked and abused those girls have really paid the price for their actions. As usual, the rich and powerful get away with it, and the grooming and abuse continues...

Was her father rich and powerful?

What does that have to do with anything? I was talking in particular about those who attended Epstein's 'parties' (for want of a better word). Money talks - and buys the silence of others who were complicit in what went on there.

We will never know the truth particularly not now, although I suspect there will be a lot more to come out. I strongly suspect the split with her husband pushed her over the edge.

Mar a Lago is familiar…. heard a lot about it in relation to another sleazy character. If that’s true about her father it’s shocking as it is shocking that she was living on the streets at 14.
She never stood a chance, RIP Virginia.

Quote ViceVersa Sat 26-Apr-25 14:19:20
Anniebach
Quote ViceVersa Sat 26-Apr-25 13:14:47
None of those who trafficked and abused those girls have really paid the price for their actions. As usual, the rich and powerful get away with it, and the grooming and abuse continues...

Was her father rich and powerful?
What does that have to do with anything? I was talking in particular about those who attended Epstein's 'parties' (for want of a better word). Money talks - and buy

Fathers protect,

Fathers whether rich or poor don’t always protect, sometimes they exploit.

I don't think she ever got the 'closure' that she perhaps wanted. I felt sad to hear about her death. Her whole life seems to have been ruined by Epstein and his circle. I feel for her children and family. It's easy to say 'where were the parents', but teenagers who go off the rails are difficult to control!

silverlining48

Fathers whether rich or poor don’t always protect, sometimes they exploit.

Indeed they do. Not everyone is lucky enough to have a father who will protect them. Sometimes they are the ones perpetrating the abuse or exploitation.

PamQS

I don't think she ever got the 'closure' that she perhaps wanted. I felt sad to hear about her death. Her whole life seems to have been ruined by Epstein and his circle. I feel for her children and family. It's easy to say 'where were the parents', but teenagers who go off the rails are difficult to control!

She didn't go off the rails
Her father, the man supposed to protect her, exploited her.

Sarnia

Poor lady. One of many impressionable and vulnerable young girls used and abused by rich, entitled older men and sucked into their seedy underworld. May she rest in the peace she wasn't afforded in life.

Exactly this ! The men, for the most part, get away with this and the youth they rob is gone forever with the end consequence being this tragic end .