Virginia GIUFFRE - suicide

Await conspiracy theories! Best to avoid dealing with members of the British royal family. A sad ending for a troubled lady.

nanna8 feel very sad for her family and whatever the truth, another troubled soul is no longer with us 🙏

It's very sad indeed. For her and her family. RIP Virginia.

Whatever you do in top circles they deal with their own way.

Too easy to attribute blame to someone just because mud has already been thrown.

Her life seems to have been troubled from the start. Young vulnerable girls and women like her are easy targets for predatory paedophiles like Epstein and Maxwell.

Recent reports suggest her marriage had broken down recently.

That might have contributed to her suicide.

How very sad. I doubt we'll ever know the whole story.

But I did respect her for speaking out and being so dogged about exposing those she alleged had been guilty of abuse and trafficking.

This is very sad. Meanwhile, those at the top get away unchallenged...it only gets worse not better.

It’s so very sad for her and her loved ones. She has 3 children. She was selected, groomed and exploited by Epstein. The unavoidable publicity must have meant the abuse defined her so she re-lived it.

Yes that is very sad . We will never know the truth and corruption that went on . I feel for her . Poor soul

Oh I am so sorry to hear that.

I'm sorry to hear that but I always wondered where her parents were when she was so young and being trafficked. She must have had a troubled childhood.

keepingquiet

This is very sad. Meanwhile, those at the top get away unchallenged...it only gets worse not better.

Indeed it is. Poor Virginia, her life became defined by those events. How many others are going through the same right now?

A troubling end to a troubled life. I am sorry for her children.

Poor lady. One of many impressionable and vulnerable young girls used and abused by rich, entitled older men and sucked into their seedy underworld. May she rest in the peace she wasn't afforded in life.

Poor woman, sexually abuse by a close family member, then living on the streets age 14. Age 17, her father taking her to the hotel where he worked and where she hoped to find work as a masseuse

Poor woman and her poor family. I've just read she met Epstein at Trump's Palm Beach hotel. There is a whole world of power that uses people as they see fit and then discards them.

Poor woman. A sad ending to a troubled life. May she rest in peace.

The OP is out of order and should be removed or edited.

I agree about the OP merlotgran and have asked GNHQ if it can be edited.

A troubling end to a troubled life my sentiments too easzybee.

RIP VG, may you find peace .

RIP Virginia Giuffre.

Its very very sad

Virginia's father had a lot to answer for, allegedly. Andrew was not the only person to attend these parties, but he was a convenient scapegoat for other, again allegedly, high profile men who partied with enthusiasm, but were never named except in whispers. Yes, he partied, but trafficking? I don't think so.

Keeping quiet, the more we protect vulnerable people such as children, from sociopathic predators, the more things WILL get better.

Laddish cultures are founded not only on lack of empathy but also on the mistaken belief that women actually prefer predatory men.

Original poster:- Naming and shaming won't work because Andrew and Epstein were like millions of other men , rich and poor, who hold the same beliefs.

Ferry23 wrote:

"I doubt we'll ever know the whole story."

It's well known to ordinary people, not just sociologists, that the circumstantial cause of predation by men on women and children is the culture of laddish entitlement.
I participate in another forum where there are men who have no principles whatsoever.