“Starmer to rent homes for migrants." No, no. The taxpayer is renting them!

I fail to understand where all these homes are going to come from as we already have problems finding accommodation for those that live in the UK.
They certainly should not be free, once the person has been cleared to stay in the UK and has found employment they should repay the cost of the accommodation.

It's actually been happening already. Not new

From the O/P

"Serco, one of three private contractors working for the Home Office, is offering landlords five-year guaranteed full rent deals to house asylum seekers at the taxpayer’s expense.

In promotional literature, the firm boasts that it is already responsible for more than 30,000 asylum seekers in an “ever growing” portfolio of more than 7,000 properties

These big firms like SERCO are making a huge profit and controversy around using them versus funding local authorities.

This is what SERCO says it does
www.serco.com/uk/sector-expertise/immigration/asylum-accommodation-support-services

My daughter was asked last year if she would rent a barn she
had converted into a bungalow

Thanks Wyllow for putting it right. The majority of asylum seekers are granted right to stay. Landlords know how easy it is to buy cheap terraced housing in deprived areas. They rent through Serco and others, to asylum seekers. The dispersal scheme leads to some families being isolated from community supports. Eg African Angolan moved from the Liverpool area with a community with similar faith/experience into areas with few/no people ‘like them’

We need to rapidly move to allowing asylum seekers to work. No one can manage on the money they get. Many have good skills to contribute. A friend who had two carers, 4 times a day was so well cared for by women who’d been given settled status. He learned about the perils they faced in their part of Africa, and on their journey here. 4 came to his funeral

Oh the irony of this OP starting, yet another, ‘let’s hate asylum seekers’ post at the very same time as the funeral of Pope Francis.

May the peace of human kindness be in your heart OP.

You have a point there.

The 'taxpayer' isn't funding this, the State is.

It is only 'our' money in the sense that the money the state creates can be regarded as a public good, even though it is one that we have elected a government to spend and administer on our behalf.

I'll point out, once again, that no-one (apart from the mega rich who have huge reserves of it) would have any money if the state didn't continually create it.

Bu, then, hanging on to the 'taxpayers' money' myth is a great excuse for venting bile on any government action that one disapproves of..

It isn’t bile on the government it is the bile of “othering” - we see it in Trump’s America , in the Farage riots and in Le Pen’s rhetoric.

This isn’t about the very real issue of a housing crises, it is about false equivalence, and blaming a group of people who have nothing on this earth rather than the decades of government policies.

This is about hate, and spreading the hateful message.

Whitewavemark2

It isn’t bile on the government it is the bile of “othering” - we see it in Trump’s America , in the Farage riots and in Le Pen’s rhetoric.

This isn’t about the very real issue of a housing crises, it is about false equivalence, and blaming a group of people who have nothing on this earth rather than the decades of government policies.

This is about hate, and spreading the hateful message.

Hear, hear WW2 👏👏👏

Iam64
We need to rapidly move to allowing asylum seekers to work.

Yes, agreed, and without them being obliged to work in the ‘cash in hand economy’.

And it is a housing crisis issue, no matter whether you see it as hatred or not, or on whichever government you blame it.

If you’re part of that crisis, anyone who might move you “further down the ladder” or be getting a helping hand that you don’t get, is likely to feel aggrieved.

If you’re safely ensconced in your own home, maybe the you should not comment, but as we’ve seen on many GN threads, everyone
knows someone
or has a family member
or a close friend or neighbour or colleague
who is affected by whatever the subject is.

Thankyou FGT for clarifying but the word used in the post was migrants, there are alot of migrants who live here legally, have the paperwork and contribute to this country.
I worked in a job where people needed help, when things went wrong for them the first people they blamed was the immigrants. One said to my partner that"he came over here and took their jobs" when challenged and asked if he would like to do his jobs the reply was " I can't read and write, could not be bothered ar School" this was my partners reality.
I make no apology for saying people have a racist agenda, yes it is concern, for themselves only and not the bigger picture.

Wyllow3

karmalady

escaped

Is that 5 years with the same tenant? 😲
He can't have much faith in his "processing" system then.

multiple occupants I should think

No, its a 5 years deal for the landlord not occupants.

👍

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

👏👏👏👏 It’s becoming sooooo boring now! Migrate bashing, Starmer bashing 🙄🙄🙄

rafichagran

Thankyou FGT for clarifying but the word used in the post was migrants, there are alot of migrants who live here legally, have the paperwork and contribute to this country.
I worked in a job where people needed help, when things went wrong for them the first people they blamed was the immigrants. One said to my partner that"he came over here and took their jobs" when challenged and asked if he would like to do his jobs the reply was " I can't read and write, could not be bothered ar School" this was my partners reality.
I make no apology for saying people have a racist agenda, yes it is concern, for themselves only and not the bigger picture.

Well said!

The housing crisis is the fault of previous governments. It’s long been known we need more affordable and social housing. Thatcher was wrong to sell council housing and doubly wrong to stop councils using the money to build more
Recently in my town, the charity that feeds the needy, the homeless in my town centre were approached by a couple with six children, homeless, hungry and cold. Police and council emergency staff sorted their accommodation for the night

LizzieDrip

Oh the irony of this OP starting, yet another, ‘let’s hate asylum seekers’ post at the very same time as the funeral of Pope Francis.

May the peace of human kindness be in your heart OP.

🩷🩷

These big firms like SERCO are making a huge profit and controversy around using them versus funding local authorities.

Exactly Wyllow.
Some folk are making huge fortunes out of all this. Charities too. I don’t think there’s a real will (from Labour nor Tory before them) to call time on any of this.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

^These big firms like SERCO are making a huge profit and controversy around using them versus funding local authorities.^

Exactly Wyllow.
Some folk are making huge fortunes out of all this. Charities too. I don’t think there’s a real will (from Labour nor Tory before them) to call time on any of this.

True.

www.serco.com/uk/sites/serco%2Daasc/landlords

Includes ‘considering all types of homes’ including student accommodation and ‘former’ care homes! There is already a shortage of student accommodation for starters. Suddenly care homes will become ‘former’ care homes perhaps?? This is twisted and making all of the issues we face as a country a heck of a lot worse!

LizzieDrip

Oh the irony of this OP starting, yet another, ‘let’s hate asylum seekers’ post at the very same time as the funeral of Pope Francis.

May the peace of human kindness be in your heart OP.

This is nothing to do with hatred. Can anyone explain how this small island can take in wave after wave of people of whom we know virtually nothing year after year after year? When do we finally say enough is enough?

It's not this causing the closure of care homes! Internal pressures do this. Please don't exaggerate to try and make political capital.
They buy up vacant ones.

The SERCO issue is complicated, because they supply the back up and support services for those they house, and local councils don't have the money to do this unless funded. But making the profits out of them for shareholders is rather gross.

I'm not sure why you object to charities FGT running "not for profit schemes" - any money made goes back into supporting refugees for example once they get processed into settling and jobs and so on which is surely what we all want.

There is, after 27 years of this nonsense, only one logical conclusion.
Our government(s) actually want them here.

Yet again we are labeled as 'racist' if we show concern over the influx of undocumented arrivals on our shores.

Are you only allowed to comment on here if you are in favour of Starmer and agree with his stance on housing these majority of young men over our own homeless?

Oh come on Wyllow we all read articles on Care4Calais and how they coach prospective ‘irregular migrants’ on what to say on arrival at Dover!

Let’s not all be as green as we’re cabbage looking!