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ā€œStarmer to rent homes for migrants." No, no. The taxpayer is renting them!

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 09:26:07

He’s asking landlords to house migrants and giving them a 5 year guarantee of income. So, putting them (in the north probably as we’re a bit cheaper up here) in the middle of communities. Lads we know nothing about. What could possibly go wrong? šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

I’m not sure this is the answer to the migration problem we have. What do you think?

Fartooold Sat 26-Apr-25 12:57:19

Once again FGT why are you so heartless, these are human beings but for the grace of ā€œgodā€ it could be us.

petra Sat 26-Apr-25 13:00:31

Wyllow3

This is what SERCO says it does
www.serco.com/uk/sector-expertise/immigration/asylum-accommodation-support-services

If they run this scheme as badly as they operate the tagging scheme I dread to think where it will end.

www.google.com/search?q=dispatches+%2B+the+tagging+scandel&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:435b3d26,vid:mY0aBwELdvU,st:0

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 13:03:52

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Oh come on Wyllow we all read articles on Care4Calais and how they coach prospective ā€˜irregular migrants’ on what to say on arrival at Dover!

Let’s not all be as green as we’re cabbage looking!

We were focussing on housing provision when I alluded to charities. You have again cherry picked one organisation and at that only on one accusation of what they do.

so people can review and make own minds up there are many charities locally working on support of various kinds particularly once accepted into UK here are details. I've included Care4Calais so readers can see the breadth of their work.

Care for Calais

care4calais.org

Red Cross which is the main organisation in the UK in this field

www.redcross.org.uk/get-help/get-help-as-a-refugee

Example of a local organisation (Manchester)

mrsn.org.uk/aims/

Similar all over the country.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 13:15:29

Well let’s address the real issue itself….
Our borders are not secure and it’s costing the country billions £££s a year .

Mollygo Sat 26-Apr-25 13:44:02

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well let’s address the real issue itself….
Our borders are not secure and it’s costing the country billions £££s a year .

No! Don't do that FGT. That’s expressing hatred!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 13:48:33

🤣

JenniferEccles Sat 26-Apr-25 13:51:47

What could possibly go wrong indeed.

Until we have an effective deterrent the boats will keep coming.
I’m sure the Rwanda plan wasn’t ideal but at least the Conservatives were on the right lines, and it had started to produce results with a number of the young males turning up in Ireland to avoid being sent to Rwanda.

Freya5 Sat 26-Apr-25 14:00:57

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

Here we go, being called names because we do not like what is happening here.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 14:05:30

In one JE and Freya.

I read that Trump is eyeing up the Rwanda package that we’d paid for and weren’t allowed to use.

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 14:17:08

Yes, eyeing up alongside a number of other countries reported in all the usual suspect press outlets with little real information. Trump coughs an x out and we all jump - I'd wait to see what it's supposed to involve first.

Wyllow3 Sat 26-Apr-25 14:20:07

And anyway as GB news pointed out...

"Rwandan homes earmarked for deported migrants already sold...

GB News
www.gbnews.com › politics › rwanda-scheme-h...
4 Sept 2024 — Rwandan homes that were previously earmarked to house migrants deported from the UK have already been sold to local buyers.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 14:40:05

Maybe Trump is sorting out his own Rwandan package. It’s going to be beautiful.

Witzend Sat 26-Apr-25 14:42:23

Churchview

The only reports of this I can find are in the Telegraph, Daily Mail and GB News hmm

There’s a report in today’s Times.
However the main point at issue is the dire shortage of reasonable, affordable housing for those already here - natives and migrants.
Successive governments have done sod all to address it, and I don’t see that changing any time soon.

Primrose53 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:19:45

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

Calm yourself down whitewavemark2!

Nobody on here has ever said they hate migrants, illegal or otherwise but the sheer numbers arriving on our shores now is completely unacceptable when we have people who have worked and paid their taxes and are unable to get social housing because of too many people waiting or private rentals because they are too expensive.

You always jump on anything anti migrant and claim it’s racist but it isn’t. There have been many occasions when I’ve seen people in the street being interviewed about the migrant crisis and they are every creed, colour and religion yet they say we should not allow any more people in. They are NOT just white British.

Labour are doing absolutely nothing to stop them coming and if they are being provided with nice free, rented accommodation even more will come.

How many migrants are you putting up wwm2? Whenever these posts are on, their supporters always sayā€ well, I would but I just don’t have the room.ā€ 🤣🤣

Allira Sat 26-Apr-25 15:25:52

Smileless2012

FGT's I don't know what the answer to the migration problem is but don't see how this can be one. There's already a shortage of rental accommodation, due in part to landlords 'getting out' before new rules and regulations become law.

Whst about families with children already living in one or two rooms because their landlords have turned them out through no fault of their own?

Surely people on a waiting list for housing should have priority? People living in rotten, mould-infested recitals need decent accommodation.

There must be other accommodation which is suitable for single men?

*Whitewavemark2^ Sat 26-Apr-25 09:32:10
Here comes the we hate migrants thread again

No, Whitewave, people already waiting months for accommodation, trying to exist in a hotel room with children and just a kettle, should be the priority.

Allira Sat 26-Apr-25 15:26:51

recitals flipping autocorect - rentals.

Crocus5 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:35:26

I’m sure that it’s been mentioned before that we are a small island and cannot accommodate more people, especially in the towns and cities. This is the crux of the matter as many posters have already pointed out.Where are they all to go?

Allira Sat 26-Apr-25 15:36:44

Fartooold

Once again FGT why are you so heartless, these are human beings but for the grace of ā€œgodā€ it could be us.

So you'd give a house to asylum seekers in preference to a family with children who have been the victims of no-fault eviction and are living in a hotel room with no cooking facilities?

I'd suggest some posters are ignoring that huge problem which gets worse week by week.

Allira Sat 26-Apr-25 15:41:08

Another thread where posters are virtue signalling and calling anyone who points out the realities for many families in Britain today heartless, whilst at the same time putting their heads in the sand and ignoring the plight of desperate families who have been waiting months or even years for decent accommodation, a place to bring up their children in clean, safe housing.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:48:33

Thank you Allira you are a poster who is measured and sensible so your posts are MUCH appreciated!

Primrose53 Sat 26-Apr-25 15:49:52

Allira

Fartooold

Once again FGT why are you so heartless, these are human beings but for the grace of ā€œgodā€ it could be us.

So you'd give a house to asylum seekers in preference to a family with children who have been the victims of no-fault eviction and are living in a hotel room with no cooking facilities?

I'd suggest some posters are ignoring that huge problem which gets worse week by week.

Good post. There are so many people out there who absolutely deserve a little home of their own or who are in accommodation that does not meet their needs.

I knew a lady in her 80s who lived in private rented accommodation. She had a daughter with Down’s syndrome who was in her 50s and hugely obese. The house was a death trap because it was an old cottage with the steepest, narrowest stairs ever and they could no longer climb them. They ended up sleeping downstairs in armchairs and anybody who visited would be asked to bring things down from upstairs so they lived surrounded by boxes of clothes, toiletries etc.

I talked to the local council on their behalf and wrote countless letters to them and our MP but it took 3 years for them to get a council bungalow.

Mollygo Sat 26-Apr-25 15:50:01

Allira

Another thread where posters are virtue signalling and calling anyone who points out the realities for many families in Britain today heartless, whilst at the same time putting their heads in the sand and ignoring the plight of desperate families who have been waiting months or even years for decent accommodation, a place to bring up their children in clean, safe housing.

Well put Allira

JenniferEccles Sat 26-Apr-25 15:57:45

There must be a deterrent to prevent migrants from heading here despite passing through umpteen safe European countries.

This plan will be a carrot surely?

Also I can’t see many landlords being keen on this idea, when they could rent out their properties to tenants who have been properly vetted by the letting agent.

Allira Sat 26-Apr-25 16:21:13

I think they will, JenniferEccles, because they will be sure the rent will be paid!

rafichagran Sat 26-Apr-25 16:21:28

The truth is not virtual signalling, migrants who are legally here and have families have as much right to accomadation as anyone else,
Did Starmer say they should jump the queue?
Alot of migrants have the correct paper work, the work, and they are productive members of society yet some people lump them as people just looking for benefits. Not true.