“Starmer to rent homes for migrants." No, no. The taxpayer is renting them!

rafichagran

The truth is not virtual signalling, migrants who are legally here and have families have as much right to accomadation as anyone else,
Did Starmer say they should jump the queue?
Alot of migrants have the correct paper work, the work, and they are productive members of society yet some people lump them as people just looking for benefits. Not true.

No-one is arguing with that rafichagran.

Of course legal migrants who have a right go be here and are productive members of society are welcome.
I think you are misinterpreting the arguments.

If they need Council or Housing Association accommodation, then of course they are entitled to go on the waiting list liks others who are desperately hoping for accommodation.

However, the legal immigrants who are part of our family are working and able to afford private rental or have bought homes.

I have misinterpreted no arguments the original post stated and I quote "Lads we know nothing about. What could possibly go wrong?"🤷‍♀️
Why pick on migrant lads, our home grown louts did not do us proud when they rioted after Southport.
The language used was inflammatory.

JenniferEccles

There must be a deterrent to prevent migrants from heading here despite passing through umpteen safe European countries.

This plan will be a carrot surely?

Also I can’t see many landlords being keen on this idea, when they could rent out their properties to tenants who have been properly vetted by the letting agent.

Many landlords in Scotland (and l think England too) rent houses to local authorities, this saves rental agent fees, guarantees rent even if house is empty/tenant doesn't pay, and the LA is responsible for returning the house in the condition it was in when they took it on. It tends to be a far better deal than rental agents offer.

this gov't are deporting people but assessing them does take time its not a quick process. I agree with whoever said no gov't has increased the housing stock for years and we're paying the price of that.

Other than assess people in Calais, which I think would be a good idea, I don't see how any gov't can stop the small boats, you have to be pretty determined to risk your life in one of them anyway.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/deportation-flights-illegal-immigrants/

Agree Spabbygirl that no goverment have increased the housing stock and yes we are paying the price.

I am looking forward to seeing the 1.5 million houses promised by our Angela ………

Stopping the boats has always seemed an impossible task. We aren’t the only country in Europe trying to deal with the endless supply of desperate people seeking sanctuary or even a better life. If there were solutions I’m sure France, Germany. Greece, Italy, Denmark etc etc would have found them.
Sorry for appearing negative but I’m being realistic.
It needs international solutions and ‘smashing the gangs” has to be attempted. It’s such a lucrative trade by unscrupulous people, I wish I - or preferably various governments had answers.
I know our public services and housing are overwhelmed. The reality is the majority applying are given settled status. Being angry and anxious won’t change it. Trumps tariffs won’t help either
We need to put significant resources into processing and deporting . I’d like to see the criminal justice system more inclined to deport criminals, especially those convicted of violence and sexual offences. The human rights of the honest population should top those of violent offenders.
Also tighten up the nonsense of organised crime applying for student loans illegally, get onto fraudsters exploiting our benefits system,

It's just that every time the subject of illegal immigration comes up for discussion posts appear proclaiming such hatred! so that the subject can not be discussed in a rational way.

Then other posters pop up saying "My relative/DH/SIL/DN is from overseas, is here legally and works hard in the NHS/Care home/cleans my windows etc which is, in fact, a complete non-sequitur because no-one is discussing legal migration.

Anyway, it's pointless trying to discuss this on Gransnet.
I'm out.

sundowngirl

Yet again we are labeled as 'racist' if we show concern over the influx of undocumented arrivals on our shores.

Are you only allowed to comment on here if you are in favour of Starmer and agree with his stance on housing these majority of young men over our own homeless?

Yes, which is why I seldom comment.

rafichagran

I have misinterpreted no arguments the original post stated and I quote "Lads we know nothing about. What could possibly go wrong?"🤷‍♀️
Why pick on migrant lads, our home grown louts did not do us proud when they rioted after Southport.
The language used was inflammatory.

I meant to quote your post, sorry, rafichagran

Again, that is another non-sequitur.

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

Not a non-sequitur. This was posted in the original post. Also the word migrants were used, migrants who are legal do have a right like everyone else to have somewhere to live.

Also Allira the original post said Migration it did not mention illegal migration.

But but but … we keep getting told “there’s no such thing as illegal migration”!

It’s hard to keep up.

Actually it's the tenants who are renting them, the landlords let them.

Correct Maw of course.

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Oreo

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Words like hate, heartlessness and racist are used regularly by lefties, to try to make those of us who are concerned about illegal immigration feel ashamed.

Churchview

The only reports of this I can find are in the Telegraph, Daily Mail and GB News

I heard it mentioned on the radio yesterday.

Teazel2

Oreo

LizzieDrip

Allira you don’t like posters calling out the hatred & heartlessness that we perceive in others, but it’s okay for you to accuse us of ‘virtue signalling’?

That’s cos it is virtue signalling.It’s a look at me, I’m all heart and you’re not kinda thing.😇
It’s a huge problem and as Allira and others point out there are so many families already in B&B accommodation and sub standard rooms waiting for a decent house or flat without further reducing the rental housing stock.

Words like hate, heartlessness and racist are used regularly by lefties, to try to make those of us who are concerned about illegal immigration feel ashamed.

Teazel2 don’t let it worry you. You know in your heart who and what you are. Never feel ashamed of how you feel.
They just like to polish their halos in their spare rooms where they could be accommodating migrants. 🤣

Whitewavemark2

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

I was just about to write along those lines Whitewave.

Also, how FGT can complain about any headlines when we have seen the ones that person uses, is beyond me.

I agree we, like every other European country is struggling to find solutions to the tide of humanity seeking refuge in our countries.
On that note, I’m not off to polish my halo in one of my many spare rooms. It’s become impossible to discuss this topic

Here comes the we hate migrants thread again. Hasn’t been talked/hated about for at least 10secs.

Is this whitewave speak for "stop discussing immigration, even when it's a topical new story, because it's racist, because I say so"?

Churchview
The only reports of this I can find are in the Telegraph, Daily Mail and GB News hmm

You need to broaden your reading matter; it was published in The i Paper yesterday.

Iam64

Stopping the boats has always seemed an impossible task. We aren’t the only country in Europe trying to deal with the endless supply of desperate people seeking sanctuary or even a better life. If there were solutions I’m sure France, Germany. Greece, Italy, Denmark etc etc would have found them.
Sorry for appearing negative but I’m being realistic.
It needs international solutions and ‘smashing the gangs” has to be attempted. It’s such a lucrative trade by unscrupulous people, I wish I - or preferably various governments had answers.
I know our public services and housing are overwhelmed. The reality is the majority applying are given settled status. Being angry and anxious won’t change it. Trumps tariffs won’t help either
We need to put significant resources into processing and deporting . I’d like to see the criminal justice system more inclined to deport criminals, especially those convicted of violence and sexual offences. The human rights of the honest population should top those of violent offenders.
Also tighten up the nonsense of organised crime applying for student loans illegally, get onto fraudsters exploiting our benefits system,

A very thoughtful and honest response.