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Want to understand Trump supporters?

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LiberalTears Sat 26-Apr-25 20:37:52

Despite his clear lack of personal religious conviction - his disinterest in or ignorance of the core tenets of any faith - Donald Trump successfully aligned himself with conservative Christian voters. His supporters were willing to overlook his character flaws, his evident disdain for religious principles, and his personal immorality. What mattered was that he, in their view, would defend their values and deliver on their agenda.

For many religious voters, Trump became a symbol of power and vengeance - someone who would "fight for them," not out of any spiritual conviction, but because he promised to uphold their social and political priorities. This willingness to overlook his hypocrisy, to accept him as a "savior" despite his blatant disregard for their faith’s core values, reveals the extent to which personal grievances, power, and tribalism outweighed any moral consistency.

The progression can be traced back to a cultural shift rooted in denial. The advent of Trumpism marked a profound moment in American history - an era in which facts, reason, and objective truth became increasingly irrelevant to large swaths of the population. This denial was not born from ignorance alone; it was a strategic decision to reject the uncomfortable realities of a changing world.

Trump and his movement thrived on this denial. At its core, Trumpism is about rejecting the facts that contradict the deeply held beliefs of its followers. A significant aspect of this was the rejection of inconvenient truths about race, gender, climate change, and science. As America changed, these groups faced a crisis of identity - an identity deeply rooted in outdated worldviews that were increasingly being challenged by social progress, scientific understanding, and demographic shifts. In response, Trump and his movement provided a simple, yet powerful antidote: denial.

Trump's followers were not only reacting to external changes, but to internal discomfort. They hated the idea that science contradicted their religion, that their hypocrisy was being exposed, and that their views on race and gender were increasingly considered offensive or outdated. To cope with these revelations, they did not engage with the facts or attempt to reconcile their beliefs with a modern world. Instead, they simply denied the facts -choosing comfort over truth, and aligning themselves with a figure who, rather than addressing uncomfortable realities, validated their grievances.

Trump, as the leader of this movement, embodied and reinforced this rejection of reality. He empowered his followers to believe in an alternative version of events, a version where they were always the victims, where their discomfort was justified, and where their worldview was never in need of change. Trump didn't need to deliver coherent policy solutions or rational arguments. He only needed to assert that their fears and frustrations were valid, that the facts were lies, and that he would fight for their right to remain in denial.

This denial is not just an individual failing - it is a systemic disease that undermines the democratic process. Trumpism capitalized on a toxic mix of denial and hatred. Many of his supporters found themselves not only rejecting uncomfortable truths but also fostering a deep resentment toward other Americans - particularly "liberals". This hatred became a driving force so powerful that many voters were willing to act against their own self-interest if it meant causing harm to their perceived enemies. They were driven less by the desire for personal gain and more by the satisfaction of seeing their "enemies" suffer.

Allira Sun 27-Apr-25 19:10:18

Casdon

To an extent it does, but coming on this forum and telling people that they are wrong in the way you just did is not going to influence anybody in the way you would like it to, it will just put peoples backs up. We are not USA voters, and we see the situation in the USA from a different perspective, whether or not we support what he is doing.

Casdon Goodness, what a lot of new posters all of a sudden!

How come Gransnet is suddenly so popular?
😯

M0nica Sun 27-Apr-25 19:55:58

Let me put it simply. Trump did not win the last election. The Democrats gave it to him on a plate.

America has got the government it voted for. The fact that all these new GN members do not like it is tough, but life is like that.

The number of American members of GN is not insignificant, but the majority are not American citizens and voters, we just have to live with the results that American voters as a whole have voted for.

If the US citizens who are bringing US internal politics to GN to discuss want to do something to help their country, then I suggest that they become active members of one of their countries political parties and start working in a positive way with voters to understand how they think, have sympathy for it and use their new found compassion to try and move things forward in a positive way.

Currently reading their posts, one's only reaction is that well known phrase from Romeo and Juliet, ^ a plague on both your houses^ , A plague o' both your houses!" is a famous line from William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet. It's spoken by Mercutio after he's mortally wounded in a fight between the Capulets and Montagues. The line expresses a curse on both feuding families, blaming them for the conflict that led to his death. It seems very approrpiate for the USA at the moment.

Casdon Sun 27-Apr-25 20:01:23

Allira

Casdon

To an extent it does, but coming on this forum and telling people that they are wrong in the way you just did is not going to influence anybody in the way you would like it to, it will just put peoples backs up. We are not USA voters, and we see the situation in the USA from a different perspective, whether or not we support what he is doing.

Casdon Goodness, what a lot of new posters all of a sudden!

How come Gransnet is suddenly so popular?
😯

I think it might be a ‘key phrase’ scenario? If somebody types in, say, ‘Trump is wonderful’ and searches it on the net, it might bring up that somebody on Gransnet said that, so they get to the site that way.

Hillary4SupremeRuler Tue 29-Apr-25 21:07:19

@GaslightObstructProject

The person you are lashing out at about the "rubbish" comment wasn't arguing with you. They were talking about Dump and comparing him to Boris Johnson. It seems you thought they were talking about you for some reason and then went on to clap back at them. I agree with your points but just wanted to point that out to you.

Also as a side note: I don't know who posted this little piece first, but I remember seeing this exact same post word for word on a Reddit comment, posted on the same day as this on R/AskUS. So looks like we got a copycat on our hands!