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Whitewavemark2 Mon 28-Apr-25 09:26:47

Mark Carney looks set to win the Canadian Election which means that a government with liberal values, governed by the rule of law will be a model and alternative to its neighbour.

Carney has already shown that he fully intends to stand strong against Trumps more mad economic and nationalistic ideas, and leaders like Putin and others know that Trump caves pretty quickly when up against strength.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 30-Apr-25 11:45:08

lafergar

There's nowt FGT doesn't know.

Or at least have an opinion on! 😂

Wyllow3 Wed 30-Apr-25 10:25:35

finish sentence I "hope SM mudslinging doesnt take too great a part."

Wyllow3 Wed 30-Apr-25 10:24:30

I was glad to read this from Quebec

"On Tuesday morning, Bloc Québécois leader Yves-Francois Blanchet suggested Carney could benefit from at least a period of stability in the House.

Blanchet urged a "truce" among parties while Canada negotiated trade with the US, saying it was clear Canadians wanted political stability in unstable times. and that those who didnt get their party in can look to protecting Canada as a whole.

Its clear there are complex social issues: they sound similar to ours, and I hope SM mudslinging

A tough time ahead. He's due to see Trump (or a representative) soon, and the G7 coming up in June. I hope we'll see meetings with him and European allies.

foxie48 Wed 30-Apr-25 09:32:15

Doversole I don't know if Mark Carney has a trans child or not and frankly, I don't think it's anyone's business. However, if he does, then I'm glad that child has been born into a family like the Carney's rather than one like Musk's! Or perhaps you think Musk's behaviour is typical of all father's who have a trans child? Hopefully Musk is the exception.

Doversole Tue 29-Apr-25 22:51:35

Am very disappointed Mark Carney has won. He didn’t cover himself in glory in his banking days - lots of smooth talking but little else. And he’s not experienced as a politician.

The liberals under Trudeau have led Canada to a dreadful state. For example, the lovely city centre of Montreal is regularly overrun with sectarian riots and immigrants who do not respect our way of life.

Canada has been dubbed “Tranada” due to the advance in trans rights at the expense of others (particularly women and girls) under Trudeau. Some of this has led to utterly depraved behaviour in some of our communities. Carney has a trans daughter who lives as a man. So we can guess his views on the matter.

We could have been confident that whoever had won the election would stand up to Trump. Canada and Canadians have always their own in the relationship with our southern neighbour. Carney adds nothing to this.

God bless Canada.

CanadianGran Tue 29-Apr-25 21:40:31

I for one didn't really think Trudeau did so poorly. He got us through Covid with the least possible damage, and we shut down in much the same ways that Conservative countries did. We have immigration problems just as other 1st world countries do, as well as housing and health. But just like anywhere else, we need low income and manual workers that younger Canadians don't seem to want to do. I think those issues started prior to the last 10 years of Liberal gov't. He responded well to the crisis in Ukraine, climate change, dental plan (although that was driven by NDP).

I do think Carney will be more fiscally responsible, and he does have a plan for housing and health. So we'll see. I don't think there is any quick fix for our issues, but we need a strong voice and negotiator when it comes to trade.

Maremia Tue 29-Apr-25 21:37:13

Good luck to the people of Canada. Best wishes to the Australians. Fingers crossed for the English elections.

lafergar Tue 29-Apr-25 21:24:45

There's nowt FGT doesn't know.

LizzieDrip Tue 29-Apr-25 21:22:32

My son said Canadians who voted for him are crazy

I presume your son lives in Canada then Primrose.

MayBee70 Tue 29-Apr-25 21:06:42

Maybe it’s because Carney was opposed to the elephant in the room that is Brexit..

Casdon Tue 29-Apr-25 20:23:00

lafergar

Primrose53

FriedGreenTomatoes2

If Canadians seriously see Carney as a "problem solver" then I suggest they haven't bothered to look at his dreadful record. It really is hard to comprehend why that nation would consider for a millisecond voting for him after ten thoroughly incompetent years of Trudeau. What are they thinking?!!

My son said Canadians who voted for him are crazy.

Ah well, that'll be right.

I can’t help thinking that Canadians are more au fait with what is happening there, what the parties could offer them, and who can best deal with the GW than you FriedGreenTomatoes2, or Primrose’s son. Give them some credit.

lafergar Tue 29-Apr-25 20:17:00

Primrose53

FriedGreenTomatoes2

If Canadians seriously see Carney as a "problem solver" then I suggest they haven't bothered to look at his dreadful record. It really is hard to comprehend why that nation would consider for a millisecond voting for him after ten thoroughly incompetent years of Trudeau. What are they thinking?!!

My son said Canadians who voted for him are crazy.

Ah well, that'll be right.

Primrose53 Tue 29-Apr-25 19:51:45

FriedGreenTomatoes2

If Canadians seriously see Carney as a "problem solver" then I suggest they haven't bothered to look at his dreadful record. It really is hard to comprehend why that nation would consider for a millisecond voting for him after ten thoroughly incompetent years of Trudeau. What are they thinking?!!

My son said Canadians who voted for him are crazy.

Llamedos13 Tue 29-Apr-25 18:31:06

Here’s another Canadian very happy today.

LizzieDrip Tue 29-Apr-25 18:27:06

It’s so good to hear the views of actual Canadians👏👏👏

MayBee70 Tue 29-Apr-25 17:16:47

Dcba

I’m living in Canada and I definitely feel a sense of relief that Mark Carney is our next Prime Minister. It’s a different world with different rules these days and now = more than ever with our neighbours to the South breathing down necks - it is absolutely vital we have a Canadian leader who can operate on the world stage with defined and demonstrates experience in big business negotiations and not just a political homegrown candidate whose successes and failures are linked to just government policies. I believe Canada has chosen the right man at the right time, showing the world that we care deeply about our country at this moment.

I’m a huge fan of Mark Carney and share your relief that he has been elected. Well done Canada. The polar opposite of Trump!

CocoPops Tue 29-Apr-25 16:48:39

I am in Canada and voted liberal. Very pleased Mark Carney continues as PM. Best candidate for the job IMO as Deba's post states above.

lafergar Tue 29-Apr-25 16:32:22

Carney or indeed half a mushroom would be better than that odious creature Trump.

Dcba Tue 29-Apr-25 16:23:03

I’m living in Canada and I definitely feel a sense of relief that Mark Carney is our next Prime Minister. It’s a different world with different rules these days and now = more than ever with our neighbours to the South breathing down necks - it is absolutely vital we have a Canadian leader who can operate on the world stage with defined and demonstrates experience in big business negotiations and not just a political homegrown candidate whose successes and failures are linked to just government policies. I believe Canada has chosen the right man at the right time, showing the world that we care deeply about our country at this moment.

CanadianGran Tue 29-Apr-25 16:17:34

Two comments:

Firstly I mistakenly named the Parti Quebecois; it should be Bloc Québécois. The Parti is provincial and the Bloc federal. We have separate elections for our provinces and the country.

Secondly, NotSpaghetti; I take polls with a grain of salt. Who is taking time to answer them? Not me or anyone I know. I think it is the squeaky wheel crowd.

We did stay awake to hear all the post election speeches from the party leaders. There are still some ridings where it was within 1% difference so there will be some recounts. I also suspect that some other Conservative will give up their seat for Pollievre so he can remain leader. We’ll see. He certainly makes a feisty head of the opposition.

Casdon Tue 29-Apr-25 15:12:46

MaizieD

Carney might be fine on the international aspect and be able to deal effectively with Trump, but if Canadians are looking to him to solve problems in the domestic economy they might well be disappointed.

He follows the neo liberal economic 'orthodoxy', the one that has brought the UK to its knees since being introduced by Thatcher in the 1980s. ( It is also responsible for the current socio economic plight of the US. Reagan was a great enthusiast, too.)

If a failure to improve socioeconomic conditions for a large part of the population is what Trudeau was disliked for I wouldn't hold out much hope of much social/economic change under Carney. It would be more of the same. The Conservatives wouldn't have offered anything much different, either.

I have heard it said that his people management skills aren't all they could be...that's just rumour/hearsay but may be a possibility to bear in mind.

He was elected on the basis of being the best person/party to stand up against Trump though, and to develop Canada’s relationships with international allies. He won’t be perfect, and the electorate must realise that - but the vote share has increased, and if it’s a minority government by only very few seats, which looks likely, they must be prepared to take both the good and bad aspects of him in charge.

Wyllow3 Tue 29-Apr-25 15:02:23

No point idolising him, there are many problems ahead and it will be rocky. But I've had enough of posturing politicians Trump Farage Johnson

-Just watched bits of his 'won the election speech' on U tube. Certainly a good speaker. Confidently - quietly undramatic but effective - I wonder how many PM's could deliver a bi-lingual speech ....(essential in Canada!)

MaizieD Tue 29-Apr-25 14:50:00

Carney might be fine on the international aspect and be able to deal effectively with Trump, but if Canadians are looking to him to solve problems in the domestic economy they might well be disappointed.

He follows the neo liberal economic 'orthodoxy', the one that has brought the UK to its knees since being introduced by Thatcher in the 1980s. ( It is also responsible for the current socio economic plight of the US. Reagan was a great enthusiast, too.)

If a failure to improve socioeconomic conditions for a large part of the population is what Trudeau was disliked for I wouldn't hold out much hope of much social/economic change under Carney. It would be more of the same. The Conservatives wouldn't have offered anything much different, either.

I have heard it said that his people management skills aren't all they could be...that's just rumour/hearsay but may be a possibility to bear in mind.

Casdon Tue 29-Apr-25 14:34:53

I don’t think Carney bears any resemblance at all to Farage or much to Sunak (other than both attending Oxford) except a very loose connection through financial sector backgrounds, although the spheres were completely different? As you said Wyllow3, he is used to working in an international role - and he doesn’t shy away from conflict, which is going to be important. His people management skills are an unknown, no doubt his party will cause him some headaches, as they always do.

Wyllow3 Tue 29-Apr-25 14:19:02

eazybee

What political experience has Carney had? Very little apparently. A clever man but will he be able to run a party?
Sounds like a mixture of Sunak and Farage; good individual talents but very used to being the boss and not fond of advice or criticism .
Remember thinking what prigs he and his wife were when they resided here.

He's spent a good chunk of his working life working nationally and internationally with politicians from all backgrounds, but with a vast amount of experience in matters that are now to the forefront, like tariffs and stock markets and funding and interest rates and inflation dangers.... As to his character, it's a wait and see in a political role - unless we've followed his speeches and the campaign trail closely in Canada, which I haven't, we cant really tell?

I guess people in the UK will like or dislike according to our views