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Uk Elections today

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fancythat Thu 01-May-25 08:38:45

I cant see another thread about the subject.

Online newspaper headlines think Labour will suffer[normal for a Party in power] and Reform will do well.

We shall see of course.

Personally, I think Labour are underestimating the strength of feeling in the general public about immigration by boat. And about grooming gangs[white/non white, all of it].

As I was writing this, I think there is growing resentment about Net Zero too. People's energy bills are too high.

All of this has been discussed on this forum before of course.

But I think Labour may be about to see it all played out today.

Wyllow3 Fri 02-May-25 14:24:52

growstuff

Wyllow That's already the policy in this area - and has been for a number of years.

It's complex locally, as we have a large number of "non locals" in very different circumstances. And the council works with different providers of housing supply options.

There is no way of saying as per Reform simplification

"locals pushed to back of queue"

but we do have some incoming families in social housing, not individuals. I doubt most voters know the full picture, I didn't until looking it up.

Hellogirl1 Fri 02-May-25 14:33:41

I found out this morning that my grandson has been elected to his council as the Reform candidate.

Galaxy Fri 02-May-25 15:01:52

Yep Durham is my council, from what I can see so far all the deprived wards in this area voted reform.

Galaxy Fri 02-May-25 15:07:01

4 for labour out of 98 so far in my council.
The North of England are again saying please listen.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 15:08:49

The leafy shires of middle England
Staffordshire?

The County Council now has a Reform majority.

Well, let's see them put the money where their mouths are. I hope they'll fill all the potholes.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 15:10:13

Anniebach

Reform spokesman said this morning he supports a NHS where some pay something!

Well, we're paying for our eyes, our teeth, prescriptions already!

foxie48 Fri 02-May-25 15:18:00

Voters don't vote in local elections, 33% in this part of the world. I'm still waiting to hear who won the seat in my area but I voted for the incumbent, who is a Green party member and who has always been extremely active in the area. He's a good candidate and tbh I'd have voted for him regardless of which party he belonged to.

Wyllow3 Fri 02-May-25 15:18:10

Allira

Anniebach

Reform spokesman said this morning he supports a NHS where some pay something!

Well, we're paying for our eyes, our teeth, prescriptions already!

Yup......but paying to see my GP or for other treatments I get, that would go down publicly, a real vote winner....

Reform haven't thought this through.

They are all for reducing bureaucracy yet somehow assessing who'd pay and who not and starting to charge within already busy GP practices or hospitals......

Wyllow3 Fri 02-May-25 15:26:55

foxie48

Voters don't vote in local elections, 33% in this part of the world. I'm still waiting to hear who won the seat in my area but I voted for the incumbent, who is a Green party member and who has always been extremely active in the area. He's a good candidate and tbh I'd have voted for him regardless of which party he belonged to.

In local government as you say that counts for so much, a hard working and approachable councillor!

I guess for Reform councillors and areas where they have control it will be how services are delivered and whether people get the help they need (care, SEND, housing, education, you name it). They'll also have the realities of how to work with migrants like it or not as other councils have.

Wyllow3 Fri 02-May-25 15:30:44

I'm hoping and concerned that my very special needs disabled granddaughter will not suffer from Reform cuts in the SEND and other local disability and child provision departments after whats been said by Farage - their county council has gone Reform.

Interesting as the day goes on the Lib Dems are picking up more seats, which was predicted last night.

petra Fri 02-May-25 15:33:48

Allira

Anniebach

Reform spokesman said this morning he supports a NHS where some pay something!

Well, we're paying for our eyes, our teeth, prescriptions already!

You forgot our ears and feet 😂

Allira Fri 02-May-25 15:35:00

petra

Allira

Anniebach

Reform spokesman said this morning he supports a NHS where some pay something!

Well, we're paying for our eyes, our teeth, prescriptions already!

You forgot our ears and feet 😂

Oh yes, of course.

How could I forget feet, although I must say podiatry is still free with the NHS if not chiropody.

Parsley3 Fri 02-May-25 16:14:00

Wyllow3

I'm hoping and concerned that my very special needs disabled granddaughter will not suffer from Reform cuts in the SEND and other local disability and child provision departments after whats been said by Farage - their county council has gone Reform.

Interesting as the day goes on the Lib Dems are picking up more seats, which was predicted last night.

I hope so too but a Reform spokesman told Kuenssberg this morning that one of the local council cuts could be to school transport for pupils with SEN as motobility is available. I believe that Farage is keen on a DOGE approach to reducing spending so we will see how that pans out.

mrsmeldrew Fri 02-May-25 16:43:45

Allira

petra

Allira

Anniebach

Reform spokesman said this morning he supports a NHS where some pay something!

Well, we're paying for our eyes, our teeth, prescriptions already!

You forgot our ears and feet 😂

Oh yes, of course.

How could I forget feet, although I must say podiatry is still free with the NHS if not chiropody.

In Worcestershire, DH told at last podiatry appointment (he is type I diabetic) that there would be no further appointments unless he cut his foot. So we have to pay £40 now.

mrsmeldrew Fri 02-May-25 16:49:00

I will never forget the grifter Andrea Jenkyns giving protestors the finger. Charming woman.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 17:09:00

mrsmeldrew

Allira

petra

Allira

Anniebach

Reform spokesman said this morning he supports a NHS where some pay something!

Well, we're paying for our eyes, our teeth, prescriptions already!

You forgot our ears and feet 😂

Oh yes, of course.

How could I forget feet, although I must say podiatry is still free with the NHS if not chiropody.

In Worcestershire, DH told at last podiatry appointment (he is type I diabetic) that there would be no further appointments unless he cut his foot. So we have to pay £40 now.

But what type of podiatry? Orthotics are still available on the NHS as far as I know.
Podiatry services for diabetics are still available in this area but for how long, I don't know.

Oreo Fri 02-May-25 17:36:56

Whatever anyone thinks of Reform as a political party, they have done spectacularly well in these Council elections and the Runcorn by-election.Better than I thought they would.
The two main parties will be gloomy tonight.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 17:41:30

Oreo

Whatever anyone thinks of Reform as a political party, they have done spectacularly well in these Council elections and the Runcorn by-election.Better than I thought they would.
The two main parties will be gloomy tonight.

They'll have to put on their thinking caps.

Carlotta Fri 02-May-25 17:53:54

The two main parties will be gloomy tonight.

Well if they’ve got any common sense at all, they'll see this as a warning shot and a chance to get themselves sorted out and the electorate on board with where they're heading. Ask why people voted as they did, learn from it and act now before it's too late. Labour can't keep increasing stealth taxes, removing benefits from the sick, disabled and elderly, whilst doing apparently very little about record breaking immigration that's costing the country billions. These are key issues in the areas that they've lost heavily today. They've been warned.

Allira Fri 02-May-25 17:57:42

As for the Tories - is that it? Are they doomed to the wilderness for ever?

growstuff Fri 02-May-25 18:03:50

But Carlotta County Councils can't do anything about immigration - incidentally, do you mean immigration in general or those crossing the Channel by small boat?

You say that Labour have increased stealth taxes (justifiably), but the cuts Reform seem likely to make will hit those very same people. County Councils' major responsibility is for social care. Services have already been cut to the bone, which is why the elderly and disabled don't get the home visits they need and it's so hard to get funding for care homes. Parents of SEND children are already having to subsidise their PIP funding and it now looks likely they will have to pay to send their children to school. It will be interesting to see what Reform councils do.

growstuff Fri 02-May-25 18:05:02

Allira

As for the Tories - is that it? Are they doomed to the wilderness for ever?

I think they might think about finding a new leader.

Casdon Fri 02-May-25 18:22:34

The results are more interesting than they first look I think. At the moment, Reform gains and Tory losses are virtually equal, and Labour losses and Lib Dem gains are virtually equal. Where have the Lib Dem votes come from? I don’t know if it’s coincidental, so I’m looking forward to the nerds working out the stats, so we know exactly what has happened.

Wyllow3 Fri 02-May-25 18:30:13

Haven't the Lib Dem wins come in from the "usual suspect" areas? Ie not the Red Wall areas of the country but went Labour last year and objecting?

Wyllow3 Fri 02-May-25 18:37:29

growstuff

But Carlotta County Councils can't do anything about immigration - incidentally, do you mean immigration in general or those crossing the Channel by small boat?

You say that Labour have increased stealth taxes (justifiably), but the cuts Reform seem likely to make will hit those very same people. County Councils' major responsibility is for social care. Services have already been cut to the bone, which is why the elderly and disabled don't get the home visits they need and it's so hard to get funding for care homes. Parents of SEND children are already having to subsidise their PIP funding and it now looks likely they will have to pay to send their children to school. It will be interesting to see what Reform councils do.

This is where the reality check sets in. People who live in areas where a lot need social help, housing, less income for their SEND children, feel Labour has not given them what was expected,

...... then find Reform, whom they placed hopes in, actually cuts back further? Or "Re-organises" local "bureaucracies" already cut to the bone (I'm thinking of local government functions, who staff SSD, Housing, Education and more)?

I think it's a case of by their deeds shall we know them, not their words. And if many of them are decent people, which I'm sure with those numbers, there are, they will have to address peoples needs in practice, not in theory, before more elections come along of greater import.