Israel to "conquer" Gaza

Why has he waited until being fired ?

With the exception of those countries that are known to support terrorism as far as I am aware every country including our own has condemned the actions of Hamas and called for the return of the hostages, the majority of these countries also require Israel to abide by the rules of war. The two are not mutually exclusive.

Yes there are countries that are known to support terrorists

The Uk is not one of those countries Anniebach

Wanting the bombing and refusal to allow food aid into Gaza to end are the consistent comments here. Release of hostages and horror at Netenyahu and Hamas obvious

David49 Nazi Germany wasn't bombed into submission. Historians agree that the carpet bombing of places such as Dresden didn't bring about the end of the war in Europe. The Russians' taking of Berlin did that (but, of course, the US and UK play that down). In the end, Hitler was over-ambitious and was doomed to fail. Not only that, but there were many parts of Germany outside the north and the Ruhr which weren't badly affected by war.

growstuff 👍🏻

It used to be said the British would be bombed to the negotiating table. The public in Northern Ireland and other parts of the UK became sick of paramilitaries and various IRA groups behaving like gangsters

Iam64 Tue 13-May-25 09:18:43
The Uk is not one of those countries Anniebach

Wanting the bombing and refusal to allow food aid into Gaza to end are the consistent comments here. Release of hostages and horror at Netenyahu and Hamas obvious

I didn’t say the U.K. was a country supporting terrorists

Terrorist tactics exist when a population is repressed by an occupying or colonial power, and despite their often violent strategy, they will attract considerable support from their own population and frequently overseas.

How to end this terrorism.

Absolutely 100% certain that it will not end by inflicting violence on the repressed population.

If Israel ever agrees to beginning the process of recognising a Palestinian state - and frankly I don’t think that it ever will, then it must give serious consideration to bringing the insurgent movement into the process, or at least offer individuals a way out without reprisals, just as we did in NI.

It isn’t going to happen.

So I only see disaster.

Whitewave you speak of Israel not just the P.M, , that is balanced in an opinion on Israel

Oreo

David49

So you support Hamas holding all the Gaza civilians as hostages to achieve their ends.

Every country should be calling for Hamas to leave, I don’t hear that at all

We don’t hear it at all, plenty of support for Gaza but no international calls of outrage for hamas to hand over the hostages ( which by doing so will help aid to flood in.)
You have to wonder why.

Not so

Yesterday press release form the UN in Peace and Security

"Free all remaining hostages

The Secretary-General “is profoundly relieved that Mr. Alexander has been freed and is now returning to his family and loved ones after this harrowing ordeal,” said UN Spokesperson Stéphane Dujarric in a statement.

The UN chief renewed his urgent call for an immediate, permanent ceasefire and the immediate and unconditional release of all remaining hostages, he added, stressing that hostages must be treated humanely and with dignity

“He calls on all parties to immediately ensure rapid, unhindered, and safe humanitarian relief, including the delivery of critical services, for all civilians in need. Aid is not negotiable,” Mr. Dujarric said.

news.un.org/en/story/2025/05/1163146

The nearest to achieving peace in the region was with the Oslo Accords. Yitzhak Rabin won the Nobel peace prize for his work and then was assassinated following a massive peace rally in Tel Aviv, not by a Palestinian but by an Israeli extremist that has been linked to Netanyahu because he had been warned of the assassination plot by the chief of internal security and chose to do nothing about it.

No massive crowds mocking at the release yesterday, yet so different with released hostages earlier this year, Hamas certainly know how to play their game

I cant see the problem with the Jeremy Bowen BBC article. It's specifically interviewing UN aid expert on the situation for Gaza aid wise. It is currently an emergency so of course is covered.

On the same I player page there is an article about Israel's Eurovision entry who survived the Hamas attack in some detail.

I look at the BBC I player news coverage nearly every day and have for a long time and don't see the bias.

Its even handed.

Yes Pascal Hundt. I read BBC news several times a day, I too
read the Israeli entry, she has been practicing being booed whilst singing , it happened last year to the Israeli entry,

Wyllow3

Oreo

David49

So you support Hamas holding all the Gaza civilians as hostages to achieve their ends.

Every country should be calling for Hamas to leave, I don’t hear that at all

We don’t hear it at all, plenty of support for Gaza but no international calls of outrage for hamas to hand over the hostages ( which by doing so will help aid to flood in.)
You have to wonder why.

Not so

Yesterday press release form the UN in Peace and Security

"Free all remaining hostages

The Secretary-General “is profoundly relieved that Mr. Alexander has been freed and is now returning to his family and loved ones after this harrowing ordeal,” said UN Spokesperson Stéphane Dujarric in a statement.

The UN chief renewed his urgent call for an immediate, permanent ceasefire and the immediate and unconditional release of all remaining hostages, he added, stressing that hostages must be treated humanely and with dignity

“He calls on all parties to immediately ensure rapid, unhindered, and safe humanitarian relief, including the delivery of critical services, for all civilians in need. Aid is not negotiable,” Mr. Dujarric said.

news.un.org/en/story/2025/05/1163146

I’d hardly call a press release from the UN international outrage and calls for hamas to release all hostages.
It needs many public bodies, newspapers and if possible SM to constantly bang on about it for the message to be really out there.
You’d think it would go without saying, but that isn’t the case as support for Palestinians drowns out anything else.
Well meaning people are helping hamas spread their propaganda messages without even realising it.

We can't compel SM to produce what you'd like. I agree all voices need to be heard, of course.

Look, this is just a purely personal observation, but I think that there is a general sense that the withdrawal of aid and its results are a "step too far" by a regime ( not all Israelis) and that's why we are seeing what we do.

It feels like we are waiting on the USA at the moment before we see if Netanyahu carries out the plans in the O/P and the US goes along with then including the "4 centres" aid distribution centres - or not.

I think it will be interesting to see if Qatar (of the massive gift) and who generally supports the Palestinians will have any influence over Trump.

I have just read the news today. The shocking and devastating images of children starving to death, a father finding his daughter in pieces and bringing her to the hospital in a plastic bag. This is totally inhuman and goes beyond words. I'm sick of the political rhetoric, these children and adults are being slaughtered. I am really struggling to understand how we have seemingly not learnt anything from previous wars and atrocities.

It is sickening purplelavender. Netanyahu and his religious extremist friends are allowing the cruelty. Starvation is agonisingly painful and tiny children are being subjected to this inhumanity.

In the face of all this I've just read of the huge amounts of money spent on ceremonial lunches and welcomes for Trump, including the likes of Elon Musk, and top executives from Boeing, Google, Amazon, Coca Cola and more. Trump loving every second treated like a king, $$$$ billions on arms deals and more.

"Now that events in the Saudi Royal Court have wrapped up, the next step in Trump's itinerary is to visit the ongoing Saudi-US Investment Forum at a conference centre in the capital.
Trump is then due to head to Diriyah At-Turaif, a historical area and Unesco world heritage site, on the edge of Riyadh.
While there the president will be hosted at an official state banquet to close out his evening".

Notably absent from the trip so far, though, is any discussion with Israeli officials over the war in Gaza. Our North America correspondent has more on how Israel lobbied in vain for Trump to add the country to his itinerary

And yet Netanyahu made his proposals as in O/P conditional on the outcome of US trip this week.

(all from BBC news feed of events)

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ce3vypz0nd6t

It's the disgust I feel for these lavish events in the face of starvation I cant stand, and it can't be said he's much support for Israel either.

Starvation in Saudi Arabia ?

No more, and no less, than disgust, no point scoring involved,

that the entitled billionaires stuffing their fat faces whilst there is no aid coming into Gaza, and Trump delaying visits to Israel while people wait. (Because families of hostages await too).

I’ve just seen footage of Trump saying that he will be putting pressure onto Israel to open up points of aid in Gaza.

There is as yet no intention of Trump to visit Israel?

“We’ve got to be good to the people in Gaza”

Perhaps the massive gift has had some effect?

Wonder what is going on?

Corruption.