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Israel to "conquer" Gaza

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Wyllow3 Mon 05-May-25 23:49:58

"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the population of Gaza will be displaced to the south after his security cabinet approved an expanded military operation in the enclave that a minister described as a plan to “conquer” the territory.

The vote on Sunday came hours after the military said it would mobilize tens of thousands of reservists, strengthening its capacity to operate in the besieged Palestinian territory.

“One thing will be clear: there will be no in-and-out,” Netanyahu said in a Monday video message posted on X. “We’ll call up reserves to come, hold territory — we’re not going to enter and then exit the area, only to carry out raids afterward. That’s not the plan. The intention is the opposite.”

The plan would be implemented after US President Donald Trump’s visit to the Middle East next week to “provide a window of opportunity” for a hostage deal, the official added

"The plan then, is to displace Gaza’s entire population to the south of the enclave, following which the total the blockade of humanitarian aid may be lifted, the official said, adding that the military “will remain in every area it captures.”"

edition.cnn.com/2025/05/05/middleeast/israel-gaza-expansion-hnk-intl

foxie48 Thu 22-May-25 15:10:09

FGS it's not the role of the BBC to "proscribe" a group as terrorists, it's done by the Home office and is a legal term often linked to the 2000 Terrorism Act. The role of the BBC is to report the news accurately, which IMO it does and if it makes a mistake it publishes a correction and an apology. I have yet to hear the BBC say anything "biased" about the war in Gaza, it reports what is happening to the best of it's ability and does it's best to verify it's accuracy, not always possible if Israel won't allow independent reporters into Gaza. What is reported by the BBC is usually also reported in the Jewish media.

AGAA4 Thu 22-May-25 15:34:41

I think people will say news is biased if it doesn't fit in with their own beliefs.
The BBC is not biased.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-May-25 15:36:16

Ok lets go across the pond to see how the reporting goes -

just run your eyes quickly down both CNN and even Fox News, known as right wing Trump supporting

edition.cnn.com/2025/05/19/middleeast/israel-pushes-deeper-into-gaza-what-we-know-intl
CNN report

www.foxnews.com/world/least-82-killed-israeli-strikes-gaza-critical-aid-fails-reach-palestinians

Fox News report.

silverlining48 Thu 22-May-25 15:38:17

The bbc is a public service it can’t show bias and to my mind, it doesn’t. If they make a mistake they acknowledge it.
For many years the bbc has been criticised by both right and left wing as biased against one sude or the other. Hence, to my mind, they are doing as good and honest a job as is possible.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-May-25 15:38:20

AGAA4

I think people will say news is biased if it doesn't fit in with their own beliefs.
The BBC is not biased.

Yes, that's what it boils down to when all the whataboutery fades, and it takes checking alternative sources to come back to this conclusion.

Oreo Thu 22-May-25 16:58:58

David49

The BBC has been blatantly pro Palestine very little criticism of Hamas.

Exactly.
For those who say ‘oh it fits your bias’ and so on, well yes and it fits yours too!
I try not to be biased but with the BBC reporting it’s hard not to see it.From no criticism of hamas to showing pro Gazan so called documentaries it’s been clear for ages where their views lie.I suspect that very left wing Corbyn type views predominate there.

AGAA4 Thu 22-May-25 17:03:07

The BBC reports. It doesn't criticise.
I check other news channels which are saying the same things.

Oreo Thu 22-May-25 17:08:41

Well, we will never agree on this so no point discussing really.

foxie48 Thu 22-May-25 17:20:33

Oreo as AGAA4 says reporting is not about criticism it's about accuracy eg I picked you up on your comment about the "gold toilet heist" because of your inaccuracy ie what you said was untrue. If you see the BBC reporting something that is inaccurate or untrue, why not post it? Below is a BBC verify report on the bombing of the European Hospital in Gaza, would you consider this is in any way biased?
On Tuesday 13 May, Israeli strikes on the European Hospital in Gaza killed 28 people and injured dozens, according to the Hamas-run civil defence agency.

BBC Verify analysed footage, gathered witness testimony and spoke to munitions and legal experts to examine how one of Gaza's last functioning hospitals came under Israeli attack.

Expert analysis and verified footage point to the use of 'bunker buster' bombs in strikes on the hospital. Legal experts say the targeting of hospitals without warning may constitute a war crime.

The Israeli army says it was targeting a Hamas command and control centre beneath the European hospital complex, but did not provide any evidence of this.

ferry23 Thu 22-May-25 17:54:26

My post upthread documents blatant misreporting by the BBC to which they have admitted - but the anti-Israel (government) posters don't seem to have anything to say about that.

Maremia Thu 22-May-25 18:21:12

We are leaving that for the pro-Netanyahu posters.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-May-25 18:42:37

It's not good enough however to say "oh that's the BBC" "oh its the UN" in order to "prove" its not valid. Be specific. Say why.

As you say, ferry, if the Beeb misreports, they say so.

Anniebach Thu 22-May-25 19:58:37

Not good enough for whom ?

Oreo Thu 22-May-25 20:17:15

ferry23

My post upthread documents blatant misreporting by the BBC to which they have admitted - but the anti-Israel (government) posters don't seem to have anything to say about that.

I know, not a surprise tho is it?
Well foxie48 there’s the matter of the BBC reporting of the matter that so many thousands of babies would die of malnutrition in the next 48 hours if aid wasn’t sent in. It was presented as a fact and the BBC didn’t think to check that ridiculous statement.It was really a projection of what could happen in a year without aid.

Oreo Thu 22-May-25 20:18:18

So was it just inept of the BBC or was it deliberately allowed to stand as a fact?

Oreo Thu 22-May-25 20:19:52

Maremia

We are leaving that for the pro-Netanyahu posters.

It really bothers you that others have different views? Too bad.

Oreo Thu 22-May-25 20:20:31

Anniebach

Not good enough for whom ?

Your guess is as good as mine.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-May-25 20:30:27

Inept until corrected - and made very clear with apologies. Is there any news site that gets its right 100% of the time?

I'll always read another site/article if recommended here, if people feel a POV isn't represented - and I mean that genuinely.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-May-25 20:34:27

Oreo

Anniebach

Not good enough for whom ?

Your guess is as good as mine.

No one specific: meaning that because site X is quoted, its therefore automatically not good enough to be even read at all.

AGAA4 Thu 22-May-25 20:46:17

I would like to see all the other evidence that the BBC are biased. Out of the very many reports it seems that just one was incorrect.
I believe the BBC acted in good faith and got it wrong on this occasion.

Maremia Thu 22-May-25 21:11:38

It seems you can't recognise that folk no longer unquestioningly buy into the 'Gaza bad' view. There is such a slide away from support for Netanyahu. Criticism is growing all around the world.

Maremia Thu 22-May-25 21:13:28

It would be interesting to find out which news source is acceptable to those who don't trust the BBC.

Wyllow3 Thu 22-May-25 21:15:26

Good news - seems as it the pressure is working -
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czdyv3jp5elo

90 lorryloads of aid into Gaza, much more needed, its a start.

David49 Fri 23-May-25 07:58:04

Oreo

Allira

I'm not sure, even if they had the means, how UN peacekeeping troops could be involved without becoming targets for both Israel and Hamas?

I hope this is the beginning of the end and that UN peacekeepers, aid workers could take over to maintain peace. Would Israel dare to target UN border patrols?

No but hamas would.

Israel drove straight through the UN peacekeepers in Lebanon who were suppose to be controlling Hezbolah. A complete waste of time and money.

In Gaza it’s going to be as in West Bank a Gazan police force, supervised by Israel

David49 Fri 23-May-25 08:05:01

“Well foxie48 there’s the matter of the BBC reporting of the matter that so many thousands of babies would die of malnutrition in the next 48 hours if aid wasn’t sent in. It was presented as a fact and the BBC didn’t think to check that ridiculous statement.It was really a projection of what could happen in a year without aid.”

They deliberately broadcasted it knowing it was outrageous and exaggerated.
In the same way, they show allegedly hungry women and children waving pots, then healthy and obviously well fed men.

The propaganda value to Hamas is massive

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