Badenoch rating falls to zero

I thought the leader of the opposition majored in negativity - Starmer certainly did when he held that position.

This thread is not about Starmer ronib, but about whether you think Badenoch is doing a good job, and if you don’t, who do you think should replace her?

I think Badenoch should stay in place for a bit longer- she seems good at being irritating. This seems to have been the primary role of the leader of the opposition for quite some time now. However as prime minister, I don’t think Badenoch has a chance.

The key thing a leader of the party that has just lost a general election needs to do is to reform, and galvanise, the party back to a position to fight the following election with a good chance of winning. I don’t really think being irritating is anything to do with it.

ronib

I think Badenoch should stay in place for a bit longer- she seems good at being irritating. This seems to have been the primary role of the leader of the opposition for quite some time now. However as prime minister, I don’t think Badenoch has a chance.

😄😄😄she s very good at embarrassing herself. She is a gift to the Labour Party.

But the Conservatives don’t seem to have any other candidate at the moment? Badenoch is a gift to Reform.

Thinking about the last election, Starmer didn’t galvanise voters and gained power with a small percentage of the total vote….was it 20 per cent? The Conservatives blew it.

www.globalplayer.com/videos/2JsScNWBKpt/
I heard Priti Patel steamrollering Nick Ferrari this morning on LBC if anyone wants a listen. It was a negative rant about the EU deal and ended with her blaming the government for failing to get food into Gaza. She wouldn't make a good party leader either. We do need some good Conservative frontrunners but I can't think of a single candidate and I can hardly believe that, in my lifetime, I am seeing the demise of the Conservative Party but that's what seems to be happening. It is obvious now that Badenoch was a poor choice.

ronib

But the Conservatives don’t seem to have any other candidate at the moment? Badenoch is a gift to Reform.

Think people forget Suella is waiting in the wings!

Suella is still to pick her party?

Visgir1

ronib

But the Conservatives don’t seem to have any other candidate at the moment? Badenoch is a gift to Reform.

Think people forget Suella is waiting in the wings!

Now that's a name I would pick out. I thought her speaking was quite impressive last time round, or was that the time before?

Grantanow

And Johnson wrecked the Tory elite by getting rid of so many able and honourable MPs like David Gauke.

Yes, David Gauke was a good man.

However, the Tory’s foolish loss was Labour’s gain. Starmer obviously rated him highly as he appointed him to lead the prison review in 2024.

”Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer will appoint the former Conservative Justice Secretary David Gauke to lead a review of prison sentencing, the BBC has confirmed”

Well done Johnson🙈

I think Badenoch is ineffectual.

Although I personally could never vote for the party of my MP (Braverman, say no more) I do think Cleverly is a more balanced option than Jenrick and less likely to put his foot in it with a loose cannon of a mouth.

ronib

Suella is still to pick her party?

There is no room for Suella in Reform. She’s a loose cannon and we all know what Farage does to loose cannons.

Neilspurgeon0

Although I personally could never vote for the party of my MP (Braverman, say no more) I do think Cleverly is a more balanced option than Jenrick and less likely to put his foot in it with a loose cannon of a mouth.

Well, he was supposed to be the new leader but, along with everything else, the party messed up the voting.

I switch off when she talks.
I dont know why.

I wanted Jenrick to win the leadership contest.

But that was then and this is now.
I tend not to go back in time on anything.

karmalady

meanwhile starmer is -46

This post is about Badenoch, not Starmer.

We seriously need good, strong and positive opposition. Not more and more leadership changes.

The problem for the Conservatives and Reform is that Reform isn't just "more to the right" than the Conservatives. Reforms underlying ideologies have a resemblance to Trumps' visions of governance.

In the Labour Party local branches and CLP (constituency Labour parties) do discuss and have a role in forming policy/putting resolutions forward including criticism . Ttho sometimes 'heard" and sometimes not)

Do Conservative branches do this? Do they discuss policy and contribute towards it? I imagine there must be discussions around local issues and elections with Reform in the wings for some.

Absolutely! They will use her as the fall guy or gal, then replace her probably with the chief rat Cameron again.

I would like to see a prime minister that is 100% truthful, who never blames anything on the other party, and says it as it is. There is no easy simple answer to the illegal immigration problem, there is no easy simple answer to enforcing the criminal justice system, there is no easy simple answer to reforming the NHS or the education system amd making them suitable for purpose. I think any government would be too scared to be truthful and change the right things. I’m personally fed up with, he said she said, and broken promises.

What betrayal?

Maybe sometimes politicians have to break promises because things change politically eg Trump being re elected. I don’t believe that politicians, in general, are liars (with the exception of Johnson who, imo wouldn’t know the truth if it hit him in the face).

sparkynan

I would like to see a prime minister that is 100% truthful, who never blames anything on the other party, and says it as it is. There is no easy simple answer to the illegal immigration problem, there is no easy simple answer to enforcing the criminal justice system, there is no easy simple answer to reforming the NHS or the education system amd making them suitable for purpose. I think any government would be too scared to be truthful and change the right things. I’m personally fed up with, he said she said, and broken promises.

Have you ever read Candide sparkynan?