Lucy Connolly appeal Rejected

TiggyW

I think Lucy Connolly got what she deserved, but then if hotels were not being used to house immigrants, she wouldn’t have been able to make those comments.

Yes, she would. She didn't just tweet about immigrant hostels.

If you read the statement of the whole court proceedings I posted up thread, you'll read another tweet not directed at at irregular migrants. They were really sick racial comments.

I think Lucy Connolly got what she deserved, but then if hotels were not being used to house immigrants, she wouldn’t have been able to make those comments.

Oreo

Presumably her other tweets had nothing to do with suggesting that others set fire to migrant hotels?
Racial offensive tweets aren’t ( yet ) considered prison worthy.
Quite a few of the sentences handed down were very OTT in my opinion and we’re allowed to have different opinions on this I would hope.

For Oreo - she pleaded guilty to inciting racial hatred, which is covered by the prosecution guidance.
www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/racist-and-religious-hate-crime-prosecution-guidance

Oreo

Presumably her other tweets had nothing to do with suggesting that others set fire to migrant hotels?
Racial offensive tweets aren’t ( yet ) considered prison worthy.
Quite a few of the sentences handed down were very OTT in my opinion and we’re allowed to have different opinions on this I would hope.

The judge followed sentencing guidelines.

For GrannyGravy13 regarding Kneecap - one of them has now been charged with a terrorist office regarding a concert in the UK last year.
news.sky.com/story/member-of-kneecap-charged-with-terror-offence-13369377

Presumably her other tweets had nothing to do with suggesting that others set fire to migrant hotels?
Racial offensive tweets aren’t ( yet ) considered prison worthy.
Quite a few of the sentences handed down were very OTT in my opinion and we’re allowed to have different opinions on this I would hope.

With them still inside.

Galaxy

The issue fir me isn't whether what she said was horrible, it's whether people want to live in a society where people go to prison for a tweet. I don't, people differ on that view.

How silly, it's not just a tweet,it was a volley of racist rhetoric, promoting burning peoples homes.

growstuff

Galaxy

The issue fir me isn't whether what she said was horrible, it's whether people want to live in a society where people go to prison for a tweet. I don't, people differ on that view.

Yes. I do want to live in a society where people go to prison for inciting murder, whatever the means - Tweet, written message, face to face or whatever.

Yes, my POV.

Casdon

A mild dig at those you disagree with is a very long way from saying you wish people dead and inciting others to carry out violent acts against them Galaxy. If somebody said they wished Trump dead I’d feel exactly the same, as I’m sure most of us would - saying that can’t be dressed up, it’s just completely wrong.

I can't say I'd shed any tears if Trump were to die, but I wouldn't incite others to murder him - and I definitely would condemn anybody who incited others to murder unconnected people who just happen to belong to the same "group".

She deserved the sentence she got.

A mild dig at those you disagree with is a very long way from saying you wish people dead and inciting others to carry out violent acts against them Galaxy. If somebody said they wished Trump dead I’d feel exactly the same, as I’m sure most of us would - saying that can’t be dressed up, it’s just completely wrong.

It has a connection in terms of how we function as a society, in terms of, I don't how to express it, in terms of public morale, in terms of creating resentment, etc.
There were a number of posts on here a while back 'wishing' that the Trump shooter had been successful, is that incitement?, should those posters face the law? As I say it's OK when it is the speech you don't like which is prosecuted, but there is no guarantee of that.

Galaxy

The issue fir me isn't whether what she said was horrible, it's whether people want to live in a society where people go to prison for a tweet. I don't, people differ on that view.

Yes. I do want to live in a society where people go to prison for inciting murder, whatever the means - Tweet, written message, face to face or whatever.

Galaxy

The issue fir me isn't whether what she said was horrible, it's whether people want to live in a society where people go to prison for a tweet. I don't, people differ on that view.

You’re right there, people do differ. Inciting racial hatred is a crime in my eyes however it is conveyed - and somebody with a lot of existing followers posting racial hatred on X when they know exactly what they are doing and they know it will be seen by many is beyond the pale.

Thanks for posting the Judgement Wyllow. It confirms she wasn’t sentenced on the basis of ‘one tweet’ alone. Inciting racial hatred and encouraging arson to places where people are living are serious offences. Arson has always been a very serious offence.

The punishment of sex offenders including peadophiles needs to reflect the lasting damage their offences cause. It’s lamentable that it doesn’t. That has no connection with the sentence Lucy Connolly was given

The issue fir me isn't whether what she said was horrible, it's whether people want to live in a society where people go to prison for a tweet. I don't, people differ on that view.

This is the full judgment and history of. It outlines the charges, and also outlines that they did very much take into consideration her personal circumstances.

There was no option for a non custodial sentence and in fact extenuating circumstances were taken into consideration with a psychiatrist report.

However, it reveals just how many racist posts she had made prior to Southport - read sections 1 to 12. they are disgusting outpouring of accusations of all migrants bing rapists etc.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Lucy-Connolly-v-The-King.pdf

the punishment did fit the crimes.

Galaxy

Yes but I think that demonstrates society's view on the safeguarding of children, I think the likes of Huw Edwards are much more dangerous than the likes of Lucy Connelly.

I don’t disagree that sentences for sexual abuse of children should be higher, but I think that’s a different argument.

I don’t think that a value judgment between the two crimes has any value though - saying x is worse than y just excuses y, which is wrong - both are reprehensible and should receive punishment.

I also think those who support prison for a tweet are a little naive, it mwy not always be the speech they dislike, which will be illegal.
It's quite possible that we will have a reform government in the future, it might be worth wondering what speech they would want to control/ban.

Yes but I think that demonstrates society's view on the safeguarding of children, I think the likes of Huw Edwards are much more dangerous than the likes of Lucy Connelly.

I think a suspended sentence with added community service would have been a fair sentence for Lucy Connelly, the added penalty for her was all the public humiliation that went with it.
I further think that prison sentences were unnecessary for a few of the others at that time.
There’s so much talk within government and outside of it that believe the UK jails far too many people and this is an example of it in my view.

Galaxy

I don't think whether something is an everyday offence should be anything to do with sentencing.

What I meant was there is plenty of precedent Galaxy. Sentences are benchmarked by the precedent.

I don't think whether something is an everyday offence should be anything to do with sentencing.