Women in the US been downgraded

Oreo

I haven’t read the link article but am sure that either her DH or partner or parents think what she would have wanted is the safe delivery of her baby.It’s also about saving a life, the baby.
It’s the last good thing that the poor girl can do.

I cannot believe that a woman (or anyone) can think that this is an ok thing to do. At just 9 weeks pregnant that poor girl died. The fetus is not even the size of a cherry and they are keeping the mother 'alive' until the fetus is big enough to be viable. A baby that has been diagnosed with possible Hydrocephalus which could mean that this child will need care for the rest of it's life. Who will be responsible for the care of that child? Who will be responsible for the outrageous medical bills? They are treating this poor girl as nothing but an incubator, an experiment. All because of a Draconian law that has been enforced by men, which have no business ruling over women and their bodies. I wonder how many women will die at the hands of these law makers? How many more children will be brought into this world suffering from disabilities,? How many more children will be brought into this world without a mother and knowing a mother's love?

But the Mum has said different things as time has gone on as quoted above. Which is entirely understandable, but a caution not to go on one quote, also you say " agreed with this as when the baby is born, they will have a part of their daughter" which seems to indicate an answer to a question phrased in a certain way.

She has always made it clear they should have been given the choice and we don't have on record what her feelings would have been months ago. Imagine the public pressures.

Magenta8
I saw her mother say they agreed with this as when the baby is born,they will have a part of their daughter.

And if it continues there is no answer for a fundamental question of "who pays" since it has been ordered by State Law and the family have no say.

It's all very well raising money for this first example by GofundMe, but is this expected every time? and if the child born has life long disabilities, again, will the State pay?.

I think there should be a legal challenge on this basis, because the State may well reconsider if it has to shell out.

The mother dying and the baby dying with her is nature taking its course. Older in utero babies can survive if a caeserean is performed.

But keeping a dead body functioning for potentially seven months so that a very newly hatched egg might survive defies belief and any sense of decency.

I am a practicing Christian and I disagree with abortion, but this is wrong on so many levels. The mother has, very sadly, died and the baby, in the first trimester of pregnancy, has no chance of survival under any other circumstances. I would imagine that the chances of survival are still vanishingly small. Even if the baby were to survive term, how healthy would he/she be? The baby will never have a chance of knowing his/her mother. Where is the father in all this? How much will it cost? In a country where millions are in danger of bankruptcy because of medical bills, surely the money would be better spent on a child who has already been born but has health problems.

Not all the Georgia law-makers agreed.

"The office of Georgia’s attorney general, Chris Carr, has released a statement declaring that Georgia’s six-week law does not require medical professionals to keep women alive on life support after being declared brain-dead.

“Removing life support is not an action with the purpose to terminate a pregnancy,” Carr’s spokesperson, Kara Murray, said in the statement.

I hope it won't happen again.

I read that article with tears in my eyes. Given that the doctors believe the baby may die due to a lack of oxygen to its brain, I feel they should’ve followed the husband’s request to turn off the machines keeping her blood circulating ( I can’t say alive) at the outset.

Oreo

Maybe mind your own business and simply post your own take on the situation.
Good idea?

Good advice, not very often taken.

I have read about this and I gather that while a machine can keep her breathing, it cannot supply blood to the brain. In addition the 'child' has hydrocephalus and may not see, walk, or even survive. The grandparents said that they would have welcomed a grandchild but we're given no say over their daughter's fate.
Who will pay the medical bills? If the child does survive, who will bring it up?

No one has the full facts Barbadosbellemeanwhile the GoFundMe has raised about 100,000 us dollars with a request for 275,000 …. Plus I imagine a huge payout for medical negligence??

Maybe mind your own business and simply post your own take on the situation.
Good idea?

Oreo

Umm. Maybe you should read the article and not pass a judgement when you aren't in possession of the full facts??

Good idea?
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Summerlove

Oreo

I haven’t read the link article but am sure that either her DH or partner or parents think what she would have wanted is the safe delivery of her baby.It’s also about saving a life, the baby.
It’s the last good thing that the poor girl can do.

Absolutely not.

They have no choice in the matter.

I have commented since my first post on this, but the grandmother says although they had no choice they do want the baby.

Oreo

I haven’t read the link article but am sure that either her DH or partner or parents think what she would have wanted is the safe delivery of her baby.It’s also about saving a life, the baby.
It’s the last good thing that the poor girl can do.

Absolutely not.

They have no choice in the matter.

charley68

Life for women in the US seems to be under severe threat. Canada too.
1. Family planning,
2. Personal choice in family matters,
3. Not allowed an abortion
4 You can be chased from state to state if someone THINKS you are seeking an abortion
5. Privacy and single sex spaces, eg sauna, spa etc
6. School girls and sports
7. jobs and 'speaking the truth'

I know some of these take place here, but at least our SC has clarified the Equality law for us, and we have some excellent advocacy women's groups - Sex Matters; FWS ; Baroness Nicholson; WRN to name some of them.

But the Darlington Nurses still have to fight.
I think the SNP have a lot to answer for to the women of Scotland too - not least to Sandie Peggie.

Why Canada?

Macadia

I think to combat the issue with women around the world losing autonomy, we need to raise daughters/granddaughters to have an interest in law, politics and government positions. I'm not saying that women are without fault and can do a better job than men. I am saying that they have equal capabilities to listen, learn and make decisions on behalf of nations.

I am guessing that woman would be more likely to treat female citizens as humans and not portray them as cows.

Very difficult to do in practice, when your countries leaders are passing laws left, right and centre.

What the USA is currently doing to its people, especially women, is appalling and disgusting!

Had she been months into her pregnancy I would totally understand this, however she’s at the point where even a miscarriage would simply take the form of a heavier period type loss, I’m horrified frankly!

It is a good article - at the heart of it is

"The core of this issue is agency and the removal of all options and personal choices by people disconnected from Adriana and her family’s needs. “I’m not saying that we would have chose to terminate her pregnancy, but [what] I’m saying is: We should have had a choice,” said Smith’s mother, April Newkirk.

The race element also explained.

This article is well written: www.refinery29.com/en-au/2025/05/11898728/adriana-smith-georgia-pro-life-law

She is being tube fed.

ronib

Medical negligence compensation payments must be due to the family? Small comfort of course but I would hope that all medical bills are covered.

It would be good..if they can afford the lawyer!
Its till the idea that the family might be expected to pay for all this that is mind boggling.

We are fortunate having the Abortion Laws we do and free health care thats the big big difference on this topic.

Life for women in the US seems to be under severe threat. Canada too.
1. Family planning,
2. Personal choice in family matters,
3. Not allowed an abortion
4 You can be chased from state to state if someone THINKS you are seeking an abortion
5. Privacy and single sex spaces, eg sauna, spa etc
6. School girls and sports
7. jobs and 'speaking the truth'

I know some of these take place here, but at least our SC has clarified the Equality law for us, and we have some excellent advocacy women's groups - Sex Matters; FWS ; Baroness Nicholson; WRN to name some of them.

But the Darlington Nurses still have to fight.
I think the SNP have a lot to answer for to the women of Scotland too - not least to Sandie Peggie.

In this 16th of May report in the Independent it covers a bit more ground its clear

no one knows who will pay for keeping this dead woman in hospital although it was the State that ruled it so. fgs how crazy can it get.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/georgia-abortion-brain-dead-adriana-smith-b2752816.html

Keeping quiet - I think a 9 week pregnancy will show up on a scan. 5 weeks it may or may not, but by 6 weeks the scans pick up intra-uterine or ectopic pregnancy (which the bloodtests don't distinguish)
What do they do in the US about ectopic pregnancy? The only pregnancy or labour-related death I saw in many years working was an ectopic pregnancy where the mum died in the foyer of the hospital having collapsed, & the only treatment is medical or surgical termination of the pregnancy (as foetus will rupture the tube & cause severe haemorrhage if left).
They must happen in Georgia too so I would be interested to know if they treat ectopics there (I would be very surprised if they don't )