Another child dies at the hands of parents.

MOnica you are now saying deaths in Gaza are casually murdered as a child abused , tortured and killed by it’s
mother and grandparents.. this is so not true, that little boy
was placed in his mothers arms birth , who do we turn to if
troubled, distressed, hurt ? Our families, well I did and my children and grandchildren

It's all awful but I agree it's not the same. Bombs are dropped and guns fired in war and children get killed and injured as a result. That's totally different to a family member beating and killing a child in their own family who they are supposed to love and care for, sometimes because the child won't stop crying or some other trivial reason.

Who said anything about soldiers. Many of these decisions are made by civilians, many of them are within communities. Remember the massacres in Ruanda?

I am talking about the essential nature of those who are brutal and will treat those weaker than themselves with violence, be it childrenin their family, neighbourhood, country or another country.

The journalist, Hannah Arendt, reporting on the trial of Adolf Eichman, talked of the 'banality of violence'

The banality of violence refers to the way violence becomes normalized, commonplace, and even accepted within a society or culture, often through everyday practices or the normalization of certain behaviors.

This is what you have here people who saw victimising and killing a defenceless child of their own family as normal and acceptable. Isn't that the type of person who is indifferent to ordering the destruction of innocents to prove a point, a policy or to simply match horror of violence with horrors of violence.

The worst people among the captors guarding prisoners in concentration camps had the most ordinary and banal of homes and backgrounds, just like this child's family.

Still no comparison, there cannot be a comparison with taking the life of your own child

I agree Annie. Mother's who kill or are cruel to their children have given birth to that child. It's a natural instinct to care for that child.

I agree with you both too. There is no comparison. Taking the life of your own child is on another level altogether.

I totally agree with the majority here, the killing and torture in a war situation whilst equivalent in cruelty and wickedness is totally different to a family member cold heartedly killing their child . The war is a ‘them or us’ situation and the age of the victim is possibly unknown and uncared about The killing of a small defenceless child by a family member is 100 times worse as they know this innocent little person they are the main ones who should be protecting them.
Both killings are equal in crime but to be killed by a protector by a loved one, by someone who should be caring for you is not the equivalent to being killed by an country’s unknown soldier, fighter or bomber
Poor little chap it’s heartbreaking

Monica I just do not know how you can say what you have.

I actually agree with Monica. Or I don't disagree.
IDF know they are killing children. It's not a "kill or be killed " sort of situation (war??). OK they are not related to the children they are killing, but they have no thought for their welfare because they are Palestinian.

There is a thread for Israel,and Palestine

When the British Army bombed Dresden in WW2 they were no different to the Mother and Grandparents of little Ethan ,

M0nica

Any worse than the wholesale killing of children in Gaza? 3 years of being driven from place to place terrified and starved, then killed?

A doctor lost her husband and p of her 10 children in a bomb attack last week.

I am not sayingthat what haappened here is not appalling it is, but casual brutlaity towards children is part and parcel of most societies.

WTF,what you just wrote was not only cold but unfeeling. Why the comparisons, any brutal death of a child is terrible and heartbreaking.

rafichagran

M0nica

Any worse than the wholesale killing of children in Gaza? 3 years of being driven from place to place terrified and starved, then killed?

A doctor lost her husband and p of her 10 children in a bomb attack last week.

I am not sayingthat what haappened here is not appalling it is, but casual brutlaity towards children is part and parcel of most societies.

WTF,what you just wrote was not only cold but unfeeling. Why the comparisons, any brutal death of a child is terrible and heartbreaking.

Absolutely agree, rafichgran . Your last phrase sums up my feelings perfectly.

A death in a conflict is not equal to a murder in a family home carried by a parent and/or grandparent

I agree Annie the people who bomb in war are given orders, it's shoking, heartbreaking and alful. Murder of a defenseless child of two years by the Grandparents and Mother who should be caring for him is personnel, cruel and evil. We are not in a war torn country and if these barbarians cannot cope they could have put him up for adoption or sought help, but no, they chose cruelty.
The poor children who die in war is heartbreaking but not personnel this child was let down by two generations of sadists, his so called Mother and Grandparents.

Sara Sharif was tortured day after day, night after night. Fear and terror were her life. Yes children in war torn areas are afraid but are they afraid whilst being relentlessly beaten and abused by those who are supposed to care for them?

Too many children in this country are growing up physically abused, sexually abused, emotionally abused, neglected and unwanted. These cases are one end of a very long and terrible spectrum. Human beings are capable of presenting as entirely normal and loving family members and behind closed doors, things are just not ok for those children and their ability to cope in later life is seriously damaged even when they manage to get away. I don't know how we ever make this sort of thing stop and it's so distressing.

War is a horrendous thing, any war, every war, whether it’s targeting men, women or children or in most cases all of the above however it is not a personal individual attack it’s an expected attack by ‘the enemy’
I think monica is looking at this in very black and white terms, to her killing a child is equally wrong however it happens and by whom and of course she’s logically right ‘but’ this is not a logical situation it’s not normal for a parent or grandparent to torture and kill their own small child and adds a completely different dimension as it now becomes a personal situation
This baby was not a threat to the family, in war everyone is a considered threat

It is an age old problem and so is the lack of help from neighbours who just don’t want to get involved and keep quiet when they know or suspect abuse is going on. I think equating this sort of killing with deaths in Gaza is totally inappropriate.

And now a little girl has died from being roughly handled by a nurse in the US .
I felt so sad when I read the harrowing story .