Song about Gaza

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Whilst I agree that all so-called composers can respond to a tragedy by producing some musical scores, this Gaza offering by the amateurish Marsh family certainly doesn't feel anywhere near as moving and heart-felt for me as for example John Rutter's A Prayer for Ukraine. It takes a renowned, talented composer to come up with something that will endure longer than a few short months. The words are OK, but the musical composition is hardly comparable.

Which is exactly the sort of response the war poets got from select areas of society when they were published.

Maremia

The pedants' revolt.

Clever!

Anniebach

How can anyone compare the song Gaza with the poem The Greatest Lover , impossible to do

Nobody did Anniebach. What I compared was the outcry both elicited from some sections of society.

Wyllow
If someone wanted to start a thread on the Marsh family it would be interesting as they have so many songs and they are a "marmite" group plenty to chew over but I want to try to focus on "what can be done"

You have started two threads on Gaza, posted many links , a link to The Marsh Family will bring posts on the Marsh Family
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RosieandherMaw

^You do seem to argue by attacking individuals. I wonder why^

I wouldn’t waste my time wondering.

However this thread is supposed to be about the song not the situation.
And that’s my opinion of the song (for want of a better word)

Surely the song is about the situation? I would have thought some may have a view of either, some of both. Who made the narrow definition you suggest for us all?

I will continue to wonder why your view of arguing/debating is to attack the poster not the argument. You seem now to be attacking me personally on two threads currently. Perhaps you could explain to us all why this isn't against GN guidelines and why you feel thd need to do it. Then we can all set upon those who have a different perspective. It would certainly make for shorter threads.

Each to their own when it comes to musical appreciation!

I was at a delightful amateur musical evening last night. A community choir and junior silver band.
I could have gone to a classical concert with world class musicians. I chose the former and felt the warmth and sincere appreciation of the audience.

I can't help but admire the Marsh family. They reach a different audience and that's important.

I tried to make it clear in the O/P:

that it's about the contents of the song

for those unable to watch it on U tube, there are no printed lyrics although there are clear subtitles on the video so you can just watch muted for the words

The contents of the song

Outlines clearly and simply the humanitarian situation and a call to do something about it. It is a call for peace for both sides but to address aid as an urgent priority and class upon governments and ordinary people to try what they can to do something

Since sometimes a song can touch us and motivate us as the spoken word cant do it seemed a good starting point was why I did it and why I'm trying to find what we all can do

(even if you hate the Marsh family, its the message)

If someone wanted to start a thread on the Marsh family it would be interesting as they have so many songs and they are a "marmite" group plenty to chew over but I want to try to focus on "what can be done"

Whilst I agree that all so-called composers can respond to a tragedy by producing some musical scores, this Gaza offering by the amateurish Marsh family certainly doesn't feel anywhere near as moving and heart-felt for me as for example John Rutter's A Prayer for Ukraine. It takes a renowned, talented composer to come up with something that will endure longer than a few short months. The words are OK, but the musical composition is hardly comparable.

Gosh, I'm sure you'll get over the mistake in your interpretation.

The pedants' revolt.

PS it’s a thread made up of individual posts

Oops! There I was thinking a thread entitled Song about Gaza might just be about a song about Gaza.

#Silly RosiesMaw.

This post is about whatever individual GNs believe it to be, Rosieandhermaw.
For some of you this is a musical appreciation, (or not), discussion, with some poetry thrown in.
For others it is about the unbearable situation in Gaza.

How can anyone compare the song Gaza with the poem The Greatest Lover , impossible to do

You do seem to argue by attacking individuals. I wonder why

I wouldn’t waste my time wondering.

However this thread is supposed to be about the song not the situation.
And that’s my opinion of the song (for want of a better word)

RosieandherMaw those who disagreed with the publication of war poets often framed their work as unpatriotic, mawkish and overly sentimental, or damaging to national morale, viewing what we, including it appears, you, now see as their honest portrayals as a challenge to the patriotic narratives of the time.

You do seem to argue by attacking individuals. I wonder why.

Anniebach

What are the Marsh family bringing to public ? anything we didn’t know a week ago ? I await replies

Good point Anniebach

As for
Perhaps it seems mawkish to some - perhaps they dont feel much emotion generally or dont ever respond to music, lyrics, poetry. Perhaps they find Rupert Brooke, Robert Graves et al, mawkish, etc

Words fail me. To mention these on the same page, let alone in the same paragraph as the Marsh family and, yes, their mawkish little ditty, speaks volumes about the author of the opinion.

What are the Marsh family bringing to public ? anything we didn’t know a week ago ? I await replies

Whitewavemark2

A lot of shooting the messenger, but not engaging with the message going on here!

Indeed.

Perhaps it seems mawkish to some - perhaps they dont feel much emotion generally or dont ever respond to music, lyrics, poetry. Perhaps they find Rupert Brooke, Robert Graves et al, mawkish, etc.

I heard and felt it as nuanced and sophisticated, indisputable, and truthful, but then music and song often speaks the truth I cant put into words. I think there's something meaningful in embracing heartfelt expression. Sometimes, honesty and emotion can add depth rather than detract from the truth.

Thanks Grammaretto, that is exactly the quote I was looking for a few posts/threads ago. It is worth repeating, so I shall,

'For evil to flourish good men do nothing'

I don't look at You Tube unless it's to mend or make something. There is so much fake news I pass it by, I rely on our BBC, Red Crosss etc, so I never click on links.

Because Anniebach :

For evil to flourish good men do nothing
The quote is attributed to Edmund Burke in 1795 and highlights the responsibility of individuals to take
action and not remain silent when
faced with injustice.

Inaction is enabling:
It suggests that inaction can actually enable evil to flourish by allowing it to operate unchecked.

I write to my MP to let her know my horror about the situation in Gaza.
She replies and lets me know she is glad to feel support from her constituents. If I was young and fit I would join protests.
What do you do?

What can 12 people on a boat do ? They cannot bring peace , they cannot free Gaza of Hamas , publicity seekers as are the Marsh family

They are showing support for the people in Gaza aren't they shouldn't people care they are starving and suffering in the most awful ways in Gaza

To paraphrase, in this case, I think it's about the Song not the Singers.
Thanks for all of that info about how to help.
Good luck and safe journey to those brave 'minor celebrities' risking so much to actually help the Palestinians trapped in that hellish place.