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It looks like Trump now has his Stormtroopers (Stoßtruppen)

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PoliticsNerd Sat 07-Jun-25 16:16:49

Just watching what happened in down-town Los Angeles yesterday as ICE, ATF and others conducted raids against immigrants and others.

The Los Angeles citizens protested through the night against the military-style raises. In a statement from Kathryn Barger, a member of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, she says:

I am aware of today's DHS ICE enforcement actions that took place in Los Angeles. At this time, my office is actively monitoring the situation. While I fully support the enforcement of our nation’s laws, I also believe it is essential that actions taken by federal agencies are conducted with transparency, fairness, and respect for the rights and dignity of all individuals. My priority remains the safety and well-being of all residents of Los Angeles County.

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Jun-25 00:47:35

I'm not commentating imaround preoccupied at the moment but I really appreciate your keeping us up to date.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Jun-25 06:48:00

I see that Trump is hinting at getting involved with Iran.

David49 Wed 18-Jun-25 06:54:57

“He has decided to stop ICE raids at farms and factories IIRC. Seems like those illegal immigrants are safe enough to be in the US illegally. /s”

It’s taken him a while to realize that businesses don’t like their cheap Labour taken away, those business owners voted for him too.

Dickens Wed 18-Jun-25 10:37:09

I hope there will be a moment in time when this vindictive, thin-skinned, semi-literate, narcissist, who - as some political commentator said - behaves like the world is his personal fiefdom - can be held to account by those brave enough to say sod the diplomacy.

imaround Wed 18-Jun-25 17:25:18

He already changed his mind on the farm workers last I heard.

There is a reason why people call him TACO. It stands for Trump Always Chickens Out. He does have a tendency to flip flop.

Trump's team used the word rebellion in court yesterday at the hearing about California's National Guard. The words they are using are invasion, insurrection and now rebellion when it comes to the protests. He has directed federal agents to Democrat cities to "round up migrants". Kristi Noem has said these cities need to be liberated from the Democrats.

Language is so important. Everyone should be paying attention.

I am out for the week. I am sure I will check in at some point, but you will probably have info before I do.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Jun-25 17:27:57

Enjoy your holiday😄

Just wondering what you are hearing about Trump and Iran?

imaround Wed 18-Jun-25 19:44:21

The message I am seeing is Trump is warming to the idea of getting involved. I haven't gone looking for information though, so I don't know more than the headlines right now.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Jun-25 20:23:47

So much for no war under his watch!

Whitewavemark2 Wed 18-Jun-25 20:24:17

If you are here this week you are in for some good weather.

imaround Wed 18-Jun-25 21:00:06

That is great news! I am so excited to come. On my bucket list for sure.

Wyllow3 Thu 19-Jun-25 00:56:27

Whitewavemark2

So much for no war under his watch!

Well, yes, splitting his own followers is this clever!

AGAA4 Thu 19-Jun-25 08:40:04

Trump has approved the plan to attack Iran but so far has done nothing. He hasn't asked permission from the UK to use their base at Diego Garcia to attack Iran which they would have expected.

PoliticsNerd Fri 20-Jun-25 00:19:41

I'm not sure how important the turning away of the ICE agents from the LA Dogers stadium will be perceived in America but it seemed like a fundamental act of resistance to me. I hope the feeling that such resistance can take place spreads to others, but it's a very scary thing to do under current conditions.

imaround Fri 20-Jun-25 16:13:30

It is a big deal. It reminds us we can be hopeful.

London, by the way, is kicking my behind. The temp I can handle. The humidity? I am not used to that.

I am sitting outside Buckingham Palace though, so I am happy. smile

Norah Fri 20-Jun-25 17:37:02

AGAA4

Trump has approved the plan to attack Iran but so far has done nothing. He hasn't asked permission from the UK to use their base at Diego Garcia to attack Iran which they would have expected.

Would he need permission to use Fairford?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Jun-25 17:49:42

I see that there is a suggestion that ICE agents will be arrested if it is deemed that they are acting illegally.

Are you going to Hever imaround?

PoliticsNerd Fri 20-Jun-25 18:14:03

imaround

It is a big deal. It reminds us we can be hopeful.

London, by the way, is kicking my behind. The temp I can handle. The humidity? I am not used to that.

I am sitting outside Buckingham Palace though, so I am happy. smile

Thanks imaround. Have a wonderful time!

imaround Fri 20-Jun-25 18:22:43

Not this trip. I am on a student tour so we are all pre-planned. Learned the tube and seeing hotspots only.

I will be back with my husband at some point and get to see everything I want to.

Spent some time gawking at Buckingham and the Tower today. Trying to get into the National Gallery tonight.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Jun-25 19:18:26

You will be exhausted!!

imaround Fri 20-Jun-25 21:13:39

I almost ended up in A&E today due to dehydration. Thankfully not.

I love London though! One more day, then off to the City of Love.

imaround Fri 20-Jun-25 21:15:31

And I learned how to say Leicester. grin

Maremia Fri 20-Jun-25 21:46:29

Great to hear you are enjoying London.
Norah, I don't know. What's the story with Fairford.

Allira Fri 20-Jun-25 22:47:10

imaround

And I learned how to say Leicester. grin

And Worcestershire Sauce?
You must try some! 😁

imaround Fri 20-Jun-25 23:46:38

dont get your hopes up, I'm am an American. grin

David49 Sat 21-Jun-25 07:50:19

Norah

AGAA4

Trump has approved the plan to attack Iran but so far has done nothing. He hasn't asked permission from the UK to use their base at Diego Garcia to attack Iran which they would have expected.

Would he need permission to use Fairford?

Fairford is used as a transit and training base for US heavy bombers and used by U2 spy planes continually, who knows where to, probably mostly Europe, plenty of information on aircraft using Fairford online. There doesn’t appear to be any weapon storage areas at Fairford, Lakenheath is much more significant as are the bases in Spain and Italy.
Fairford is a reserve base and hosts the annual Air Tattoo due in 4 weeks, highly unlikely to be used in any Iran action. If the US needs a base for B2 bombers closer to Iran it will be Diego Garcia, for a short campaign the B2 is easily capable of reaching Iran from the US there is no need.