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Israel attack on Iran

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AGAA4 Fri 13-Jun-25 08:24:30

This is a serious situation. Netanyahu has gone against advice from the US and has attacked Iran.
Iran will retaliate and Israel has closed down today waiting for the attack.
Although the US has distanced itself from this only warning Iran not to target US bases it's inevitable that they may get pulled into this war.

Norah Sun 22-Jun-25 14:36:53

Allira

^I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

Try researching.

Perhaps I will. Currently I'm more interested why POTUS appears to have gone ahead in Iran without a vote from government officials.

Allira Sun 22-Jun-25 11:13:30

^I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

Try researching.

Allira Sun 22-Jun-25 11:12:39

MayBee70

growstuff

Norah

David49

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

I understood your point. But, thank you for explaining.

However, I've no idea what the navy could possibly do as Afghanistan is land locked. I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

Defence. The RN patrols international waters with allies and protects trade routes.

We went to a talk given by someone from the navy who told us that there was a lot of piracy in the Caribbean and they had to protect cruise liners. This was a long time ago though and I might have got it wrong and things might have changed.

😃

Well, if pirates attacked a cruise liner perhaps they might!

But the rôle of the one ship is security, stopping narcotics and disaster relief, helping British Overseas Territories (and others) there.

Allira Sun 22-Jun-25 11:08:23

Norah

Allira

Boats? Do you mean submarines?

decolonization. ? confused

I meant whatever boats the navy have? I've no idea, the number is small. I'm not well informed to 39,000 navy out of our total population.

Decolonization is a term I read in The Economist - I assume India, rightly, becoming independent when I was young, is an example.

Apologies for causing despair - what I do or don't know to the forces.

I meant whatever boats the navy have?

The Royal Navy has nine boats ie submarines and many other small patrol boats etc.

If you mean ships, they are not called boats.

MayBee70 Sat 21-Jun-25 23:09:38

growstuff

Norah

David49

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

I understood your point. But, thank you for explaining.

However, I've no idea what the navy could possibly do as Afghanistan is land locked. I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

Defence. The RN patrols international waters with allies and protects trade routes.

We went to a talk given by someone from the navy who told us that there was a lot of piracy in the Caribbean and they had to protect cruise liners. This was a long time ago though and I might have got it wrong and things might have changed.

growstuff Sat 21-Jun-25 22:35:24

Claremont

from where ( to where)

From Missouri to Guam, apparently.

Claremont Sat 21-Jun-25 22:15:20

from where ( to where)

Maremia Sat 21-Jun-25 21:32:01

CNN headline just now that B2 bombers are on the move.

Norah Sat 21-Jun-25 21:17:26

Allira

Boats? Do you mean submarines?

decolonization. ? confused

I meant whatever boats the navy have? I've no idea, the number is small. I'm not well informed to 39,000 navy out of our total population.

Decolonization is a term I read in The Economist - I assume India, rightly, becoming independent when I was young, is an example.

Apologies for causing despair - what I do or don't know to the forces.

Allira Sat 21-Jun-25 20:55:53

Boats? Do you mean submarines?

decolonization. ? confused

Norah Sat 21-Jun-25 19:59:44

Despair my knowledge of the navy since the war? I've read many times about condition of the boats since the war, the reductions in recruitment, lack of money, downsizing since decolonization.

Nothing to despair, logical.

Allira Sat 21-Jun-25 19:25:46

Norah

David49

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

I understood your point. But, thank you for explaining.

However, I've no idea what the navy could possibly do as Afghanistan is land locked. I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands

I can't believe anyone could post that.

Sometimes I just despair.

growstuff Sat 21-Jun-25 17:54:50

Norah

David49

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

I understood your point. But, thank you for explaining.

However, I've no idea what the navy could possibly do as Afghanistan is land locked. I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

Defence. The RN patrols international waters with allies and protects trade routes.

David49 Sat 21-Jun-25 17:54:26

Norah

David49

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

I understood your point. But, thank you for explaining.

However, I've no idea what the navy could possibly do as Afghanistan is land locked. I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

The navy does take part in Humanitarian programmes. Currently it our nuclear deterrent, part of our defence system in the north sea, and taking part in the Ukraine and Gulf campaigns.

You must have missed all that!.

Norah Sat 21-Jun-25 17:25:18

David49

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

I understood your point. But, thank you for explaining.

However, I've no idea what the navy could possibly do as Afghanistan is land locked. I do wonder what the navy role is since the Falklands.

David49 Sat 21-Jun-25 16:12:05

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Navy too, but my point is that Afghanistan was neither, politician's decided that regime change was needed then failed, leaving the population worse off, the same in Iraq and Syria

Anniebach Sat 21-Jun-25 15:28:27

Misleading videos, AI-generated images and miscaptioned photos are rapidly spreading online in the wake of Israel’s ongoing conflict with Iran, prompting warnings from fact-checkers over a surge in wartime disinformation.

At least a dozen examples of viral misinformation have been verified by UK-based fact-checking group Full Fact in recent days, including widely shared images that falsely claim to show Iranian missiles in Tel Aviv and anti-regime protests in Tehran.

lafergar Sat 21-Jun-25 15:02:28

Maremia

There has been an ongoing, disgraceful betrayal of the Afghans who worked with the Allied services. Those who wished, should have been evacuated.

I know somebody who helped the armed forces. Half his family made it out, half didn't.

Maremia Sat 21-Jun-25 14:56:55

There has been an ongoing, disgraceful betrayal of the Afghans who worked with the Allied services. Those who wished, should have been evacuated.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 21-Jun-25 14:44:09

There was certainly no peacekeeping nor humanitarian aid in Iraq.

We completely let Afghanistan down.

They were disasters which must not be forgotten, and lessons learned to not repeat.

Who said - Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

lafergar Sat 21-Jun-25 14:43:25

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Yes, if instructed to so. Humanitarian aid and logistics.The same way they do other things if instructed to do so.

David49 Sat 21-Jun-25 14:34:25

Norah

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

They risk their lives because politians think that Afghans or Kosovans or Iraqis need defending or liberating, neither peace keeping or humanitarian.

It’s not peacekeeping when dozens of soldiers are getting killed and hundreds wounded.

Norah Sat 21-Jun-25 13:49:41

David49 For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.

I thought Army and RAF provided peacekeeping and humanitarian aid.

Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Allira Sat 21-Jun-25 12:40:40

Not always friends but to try to stop the threat of evil taking over continents.

Or for purposes known to politicians but presented to the public as defence of our realm.
Politicians do sometimes think the general public is stupid enough to believe their lies.

David49 Sat 21-Jun-25 12:09:01

Allira

lafergar

Let it go GG,we are all doing our best in a very challenging world.

There are some horrible fights going on here. What's the point?

There are some horrible fights going on here.

I did wonder why anyone should be surprised at all the conflicts in the world!

With a few exceptions, eeg military regimes, it is not Armed Forces which choose to go to war, it is politicians who will be safe in their bunkers.

The UK Armed Forces are highly skilled and are there for our defence.

For defence and deterrent of course but sometimes you have to defend friends too and of course there are those who disagree with the political decision.