Trump has attacked Iran

I think that Iranian women's fashion today is immaterial. They will have even more to worry about.

MayBee70

Oreo

I just can’t believe some of the things you say growstuff that are totally ‘out there’ where facts are concerned.
Iran isn’t and hasn’t softened its attitude towards women and clothing, but do go on saying how Iran is ‘changing’ if only for amusement value.

Does that justify bombing them?

Maybee70
Bombing their nuclear sites has been done for other reasons as am sure you know.

Cry rather than laugh tbh.
Girls and women required to cover just about every part of the body.Hijabs on heads, long sleeves, long jacket to cover waist, long trousers/ jeans that must go down to the ankles.
Some very brave young women have tried to buck the system but beatings and possible rapes are the outcome by their oppressive regime.

growstuff that report is titled What to wear in Iran in 2021

Things have moved on dramatically since then.

Go on! Have a laugh Oreo!

cheetah-adventures.com/iran-dress-code/

Oreo

I just can’t believe some of the things you say growstuff that are totally ‘out there’ where facts are concerned.
Iran isn’t and hasn’t softened its attitude towards women and clothing, but do go on saying how Iran is ‘changing’ if only for amusement value.

Oh yes, it has! Frankly, I don't care whether you believe me.

A ‘friend’ in the USA tore a strip of me for criticising the election of Trump, telling me I had no business in commenting on their political choices as it had nothing to do with the rest of the world . This was an ex pat. Unbelievable- every decision USA ( Trump) makes impacts on the rest of the world. He pulled out of the nuclear agreement with Iran last time round and now he is bombing them. The Iranian dictatorship is a nightmare but obliteration never lasts does it? We learn nothing from history and Trump especially is so egotistical he will listen to no one. Yes he would start a 3rd World War - to be honest do we not have that in some form already ? We just have not taken the step to all out war . Will it come ? Well it feels closer now than ever . Civilians will suffer as ever and meanwhile all the other wars rage on. Israel will be constantly at war forever.

Oreo

I just can’t believe some of the things you say growstuff that are totally ‘out there’ where facts are concerned.
Iran isn’t and hasn’t softened its attitude towards women and clothing, but do go on saying how Iran is ‘changing’ if only for amusement value.

Does that justify bombing them?

Do you have inside information about Iran's nuclear weapons RinseAndRepeat?

Genuinely interested because I haven't a clue whether Iran was near being able to produce nuclear weapons.

Well said RinseAndRepeat 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Of course any changing that Iran wouldn’t be doing is now on the back burner.
They have more pressing worries.

There is a certain naivety in this thread. The UK is no longer a political or military superpower. We rely on the US for military support in NATO and they put great store on the fact that usually they have our political endorsement for non-NATO operations. If people think that we have the military capability to defend the UK from the land; sea; air or space then they are badly mistaken. As one Admiral said recently, our Iron Dome might at best comprise one Type 42 destroyer moored in The Thames.

To put this into context, I was involved in Gulf War 1 in 1991 which was won by Air Power. The US flew 97% of the missions: non US aircraft including the UK flew 3%.

Israel and the US have addressed a major threat to long-term Gulf instability. The Arab Nations know this which is why their responses have been very muted. Iran trying to use the UN and International Law in its defence sits in the same category as a convicted murderer trying to get the International Court of Human Rights to overturn his deportation from the UK because it will leave his cat homeless. Iran’s progress towards building a nuclear weapon was a boil that needed to be lanced.

I will get my coat.

I just can’t believe some of the things you say growstuff that are totally ‘out there’ where facts are concerned.
Iran isn’t and hasn’t softened its attitude towards women and clothing, but do go on saying how Iran is ‘changing’ if only for amusement value.

Don't overdose on the smelling salts Oreo!

Oreo

Maremia

Oh growstuff, I wish that was true. Have they gotten rid of those vile hags, who went round battering girls and women who uncovered their hair?
Not trying to deflect the thread. Really want to know.

No they bloody well haven’t!

This is like a panto! Oh yes, they have!

Maremia

Oh growstuff, I wish that was true. Have they gotten rid of those vile hags, who went round battering girls and women who uncovered their hair?
Not trying to deflect the thread. Really want to know.

I believe they have - there was real backlash from the death of the girl who was arrested and from the demos in Iran itself. My daughter went to Iran on holiday last year. Most of the women had their heads covered, but with beautiful, coloured scarves tied in imaginative ways. Some of them were clothed head to toe in black, but many younger women wore high fashion from the neck downwards.

Maremia

'Nobody can react in retrospect', so true Oreo, but you can learn from the past, and not make that mistake again.

I get what you’re saying but different countries and regimes.
Iran funds any terrorist group you can think of practically, Iraq executed any terrorists.
If the Iranian regime changed that could all stop, who knows?
It certainly couldn’t be worse than what we have now, Iran sits like a spider in a malign web.

Maremia

Oh growstuff, I wish that was true. Have they gotten rid of those vile hags, who went round battering girls and women who uncovered their hair?
Not trying to deflect the thread. Really want to know.

No they bloody well haven’t!

growstuff

Claremont

Can you imagine a Middle Eastern country bombing the USA because they see Trump as a threat to their regime, ad because they want a change in Leadership?

Err ... no, I can't imagine it. In any case, the regime has been gradually changing in Iran. Iran has elections; even women have the right to vote. Iran is not Afghanistan. Admittedly, it's officially an Islamic Republic, but there are minorities in Iran and the power of the supreme leader has been gradually undermined. Even the requirement for women's dress has been relaxed.

Your last sentence had me reaching for the smelling salts!
Are you aware of beatings sometimes to the death of young women who are deemed to be dressed modestly? Not away in the distant past but recently.
It’s a horrible regime there especially for women.

America walked away from Afghanistan and left all the liberated women to the hands of the Taliban….

Oh growstuff, I wish that was true. Have they gotten rid of those vile hags, who went round battering girls and women who uncovered their hair?
Not trying to deflect the thread. Really want to know.

AGAA4

Claremont

Can you imagine a Middle Eastern country bombing the USA because they see Trump as a threat to their regime, ad because they want a change in Leadership?

Only if they thought they could win and would gain financially from it.

Which is what the US is doing - nothing to do with ideological differences.

'Nobody can react in retrospect', so true Oreo, but you can learn from the past, and not make that mistake again.

Claremont

Can you imagine a Middle Eastern country bombing the USA because they see Trump as a threat to their regime, ad because they want a change in Leadership?

Err ... no, I can't imagine it. In any case, the regime has been gradually changing in Iran. Iran has elections; even women have the right to vote. Iran is not Afghanistan. Admittedly, it's officially an Islamic Republic, but there are minorities in Iran and the power of the supreme leader has been gradually undermined. Even the requirement for women's dress has been relaxed.

Claremont

Can you imagine a Middle Eastern country bombing the USA because they see Trump as a threat to their regime, ad because they want a change in Leadership?

Only if they thought they could win and would gain financially from it.