Trump has attacked Iran

some time.

Yes, you have made it clear for some tie that this is what you were hoping for.

Un-intended consequences may well prove you wrong. No-one knows what happens next- and we are all very afraid that it may well prove a massive disaster.

The US did the right thing in my view. It was a chance at the right time and they took it.
Hope for regime change and reduce any nuclear capability.

This war has affected most of us and while we know whatever we write or say will not make a difference to the powers that be it is good to vent our own feelings.
You may not agree but we all have the right to comment.

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

The West cannot allow Iran, which is an unstable rogue nation to have nuclear capabilities.

That is indeed hyperbole in the extreme.

The East will of course say exactly the same, especially as Israel has been allowed, illegally, to acquire NWs. And especially as they have been attacked by the West so many time recently- Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran.

This is a very very dangerous game of ethnic, cultural and religious 'superiority' that gives one side all the rights. Can't you see this?

AGAA4

Iran is a danger to the UK. It is already active here threatening the lives of journalists. We weren't involved in the attacks but Iranians here could retaliate as we are an ally of the US.
I think Starmer was asking for Iran to negotiate. Starmer was told of the attack by Trump before it happened.

Yes, our secret services say Iran have had people here plotting all sorts for several years.
The UK will always back Israel and the US over countries and regimes such as Iran, thank goodness.
Iran pays proxy terror groups everywhere to do its dirty work.

GrannyGravy13

Unnecessary hyperbole will not help the situation.

We have to hope that our PM and our government do the correct thing for the U.K. with the information they have.

^Unnecessary hyperbole will not help the situation.

It will not.

Nor will anything posted on social media make a jot of difference!

GrannyGravy13

lafergar

I have some very nice Iranian friends.

So have we, their families fled when the Shah was deposed.

Of course there are lovely people, families who are still living in Iran too.

I doubt that everyone in Iran supports the current regime.

I agree entirely with paddyann54 at 11:26.

Kandinsky

Really scared now that WW3 is starting.

I have thought that so many times in the past few years.

Not convinced that this is true, any more than the last times. Obviously I could be wrong.
The Uk media does not help.
Keeps headlining it. For clickbait I guess.

The European leaders are being total wimps.

What should, or ought they, to be doing?

Unnecessary hyperbole will not help the situation.

We have to hope that our PM and our government do the correct thing for the U.K. with the information they have.

Not antisemitic ,not anti Jews I know their government won’t listen to the people who oppose them I am and always will be on the side of the people who have no voice in the machinations of government that destroy life for nothing short of greed .

But it can and does let ,in fact encourage the rogue state that is Israel to have them! This whole debacle is on Israel ,on Netanyahu and his need to obliterate the Palestinians ..he and previous Israeli governments have been aiming for this for decades ,they have said driving all Palestinians out by any means is their final solution.
Well he,s nearly there .! Now the whole region will have more reasons to hate Israel and who can blame them .The man and his cohorts are vile excuses for humans …they certainly learned from the Holocaust but they learned the wrong things causing wars and killing innocents is NOT the way to go .
I can’t believe the support they get on these threads which is one of the reasons I haven,t posted for months and I now won’t post again.The opinions of some on here are beyond belief !!

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

The West cannot allow Iran, which is an unstable rogue nation to have nuclear capabilities.

But you are not looking at the wider implications of the illegality.

We are now at the stage of might is right.

So who are the mighty?

China, Russia and USA.

The UN is rendered immaterial, there is nothing now stopping any of them. China and Taiwan and further.

Russia and Ukraine and further

USA - Greenland, Canada and further.

It is this that we have to look at.

The most worrying thing is what happens if Trump has been unsuccessful. I hadn't clocked that signs of radiation would be proof one way or the other. Anyway Iran is bound to deny it. All Trump wants is to win and get the credit.

I took some comfort from the fact that the UK seems not to have been involved.

Negotiations would have been a far better option, but there must have been more going on than is in the public domain.

Just to clarify I am not in favour of war for wars sake, I am totally in favour of defence.

A governments primary responsibility is to protect its people, Iran have committed crimes on U.K. soil, and our secret services have to always be ahead of the Iranians.

The secret services have to be prepared and on the ball 24/7, the Iranians only need to get one terror incident to fruition to cause chaos, death and mayhem.

LizzieDrip

Why would we believe anything that Trump and Netanyahu say?

They are both liars; the world has evidence of their past lies. Neither of them will have suddenly developed a moral compass. They are not to be trusted!

The UK absolutely should not become embroiled in this potential sh** show.

Hilary Clinton: supplied Iran with uranium.

Barak Obama gave Iran 1.7 billion

Joe Biden unfrozen 16 billion to use on nuclear program.

It seems hard to tell who has clean hands in this.

Claremont

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

The West cannot allow Iran, which is an unstable rogue nation to have nuclear capabilities.

GrannyGravy13

The Iranian Ambassador on Laura Kuenssberg this morning did not deny that they have been enriching uranium up to 60%. He then blustered on saying that there were other uses for this not just atomic weapons…

Well of course there are.

Enrichment has to get to over 90% for it to be developed into nuclear warfare.

Iran was not imminently ready to produce a bomb, even Trumps security advised him as such. So pre-emptive strikes on Iran is, just like Iraq - illegal. They are trashing the rule of warfare law and the world is as a result in huge peril.

But Trump has to grandstand, and we are all the more at risk because of it.

Will Israel be safer after this? I doubt it as even though Iran are not in a good place now they will not forget this and at some time in the future Israel will be made to pay.

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

Indeed LizzieDrip.

AGain, and for the third time- International Laws on war have been trashed with pre-emptive strikes. The first time was Irak- with all the lies about Weapons of Mass Destruction that were never found. It has ignited the whole of the Middle East, and made all our futures much more uncertain. And of course, Netanyahu is right behind this.

I agree Lizzie.

The Iranian Ambassador on Laura Kuenssberg this morning did not deny that they have been enriching uranium up to 60%. He then blustered on saying that there were other uses for this not just atomic weapons…