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Trump has attacked Iran

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Bea65 Sun 22-Jun-25 02:03:09

Oh Lordy, what now …this is scary news and now what happens..

fancythat Sun 22-Jun-25 11:37:07

Kandinsky

Really scared now that WW3 is starting.

I have thought that so many times in the past few years.

Not convinced that this is true, any more than the last times. Obviously I could be wrong.
The Uk media does not help.
Keeps headlining it. For clickbait I guess.

Scribbles Sun 22-Jun-25 11:39:51

I agree entirely with paddyann54 at 11:26.

Allira Sun 22-Jun-25 11:41:05

GrannyGravy13

lafergar

I have some very nice Iranian friends.

So have we, their families fled when the Shah was deposed.

Of course there are lovely people, families who are still living in Iran too.

I doubt that everyone in Iran supports the current regime.

Allira Sun 22-Jun-25 11:42:42

GrannyGravy13

Unnecessary hyperbole will not help the situation.

We have to hope that our PM and our government do the correct thing for the U.K. with the information they have.

^Unnecessary hyperbole will not help the situation.

It will not.

Nor will anything posted on social media make a jot of difference!

Oreo Sun 22-Jun-25 11:46:29

AGAA4

Iran is a danger to the UK. It is already active here threatening the lives of journalists. We weren't involved in the attacks but Iranians here could retaliate as we are an ally of the US.
I think Starmer was asking for Iran to negotiate. Starmer was told of the attack by Trump before it happened.

Yes, our secret services say Iran have had people here plotting all sorts for several years.
The UK will always back Israel and the US over countries and regimes such as Iran, thank goodness.
Iran pays proxy terror groups everywhere to do its dirty work.

Claremont Sun 22-Jun-25 11:46:54

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

The West cannot allow Iran, which is an unstable rogue nation to have nuclear capabilities.

That is indeed hyperbole in the extreme.

The East will of course say exactly the same, especially as Israel has been allowed, illegally, to acquire NWs. And especially as they have been attacked by the West so many time recently- Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran.

This is a very very dangerous game of ethnic, cultural and religious 'superiority' that gives one side all the rights. Can't you see this?

AGAA4 Sun 22-Jun-25 11:49:42

This war has affected most of us and while we know whatever we write or say will not make a difference to the powers that be it is good to vent our own feelings.
You may not agree but we all have the right to comment.

Oreo Sun 22-Jun-25 11:50:10

The US did the right thing in my view. It was a chance at the right time and they took it.
Hope for regime change and reduce any nuclear capability.

Claremont Sun 22-Jun-25 11:53:43

Yes, you have made it clear for some tie that this is what you were hoping for.

Un-intended consequences may well prove you wrong. No-one knows what happens next- and we are all very afraid that it may well prove a massive disaster.

Claremont Sun 22-Jun-25 11:53:53

some time.

Cossy Sun 22-Jun-25 11:54:12

Luckygirl3

Someone is suggesting Trump should be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.......

Yes, himself, he’s the one nominating himself!

AGAA4 Sun 22-Jun-25 11:55:51

Oreo

The US did the right thing in my view. It was a chance at the right time and they took it.
Hope for regime change and reduce any nuclear capability.

We will only know retrospectively if this was the right thing. It may have been or it may be a disaster.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 22-Jun-25 11:55:59

Claremont

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

The West cannot allow Iran, which is an unstable rogue nation to have nuclear capabilities.

That is indeed hyperbole in the extreme.

The East will of course say exactly the same, especially as Israel has been allowed, illegally, to acquire NWs. And especially as they have been attacked by the West so many time recently- Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran.

This is a very very dangerous game of ethnic, cultural and religious 'superiority' that gives one side all the rights. Can't you see this?

There have been attacks on U.K. soil and UK citizens by Iran backed terrorist groups.

Defence of our nation from any proposed future attacks, whether physical, cyber, chemical (which we know is Irans modus operandi) should always be paramount.

nanna8 Sun 22-Jun-25 11:58:27

I think it is India nominating him. Presumably before the weapons hitting Iran ?

Maremia Sun 22-Jun-25 12:00:56

nann8, I thought it was Pakistan.

Cossy Sun 22-Jun-25 12:01:53

Oreo

The US did the right thing in my view. It was a chance at the right time and they took it.
Hope for regime change and reduce any nuclear capability.

Good god! I’m horrified by your response, we have friends and family in the USA.

Iran have repeatedly stated that their nuclear facilities are not for developing weapons. Whether you believe that or not is almost irrelevant. Israel bombed them first and killed a high ranking Iranian, of course they retaliated, why Trump has to intervene (interfere) is beyond me, and this all certainly takes the heat of Israel bombing aid stations in Gaza!

What sort of world are we living in?

Trump is a madman, loose canon and frankly I find all of this very scary!

Little bit reminiscent of “weapons of mass destruction”

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Whitewavemark2 Sun 22-Jun-25 12:03:21

It is not hyperbole to say that the rule of international law has been ignored.

It may not suit supporters of the USA and Israel, but it is a fact. Their actions would not stand up in an international court.

Because of their actions, the west can no longer point the finger or expect retribution in court when other not so friendly countries do the same.

This means then that the most powerful countries will be able to act with impunity and smaller less powerful countries forced to toe the line without recourse to the UN as we have been able to do since WW2.

Anniebach Sun 22-Jun-25 12:03:40

Quote Maremia Sun 22-Jun-25 12:00:56
nann8, I thought it was Pakistan.

I too read it was Pakistan

Maremia Sun 22-Jun-25 12:06:11

paddyann54, it's good to see you back, and to read your input.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 22-Jun-25 12:06:36

TBH I was surprised to read Pakistan, as they are allies of Iran.

India is always Brown nosing Trump, so perhaps it was them?

Maremia Sun 22-Jun-25 12:07:56

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

nanna8 Sun 22-Jun-25 12:08:26

They reported India here but who knows?

Cossy Sun 22-Jun-25 12:09:10

Cabowich

How, exactly, is Iran able to retaliate? Why is the situation so worrying? I don't quite get it.

If Trump has incapacitated any nuclear weapons the Iranians might have had, what have they got left? Some missiles which might not have the ability to reach America?

Please somebody explain why the situation is so dangerous.

Because it’s very likely Iran have cells in various countries

Whitewavemark2 Sun 22-Jun-25 12:13:06

Maremia

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

And that is why we have had the UN.

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

In a very real sense, the world no longer has a choice between force and law. If civilization is to survive, it must choose the rule of law."

Parsley3 Sun 22-Jun-25 12:17:26

Whatever the rights or wrongs of this, we are in a very bad place. Netanyahu has achieved his long held ambition to attack Iran and Trump has taken the USA into a foreign war. Netanyahu has the support of the Israeli people for his action but Trump will have to square it with his MAGA supporters. So how much support will Starmer have if he is asked to take the UK into this conflict? Very little I imagine and certainly not from me. It's one thing to praise the actions of foreign countries from afar but what if we need to be actively involved?