Trump has attacked Iran

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

That was then. Sadly, the UN shows that it is not always up to those original ideals. In some areas it is inefficient and bureaucratic and falls below its known standards, although in many areas it is fit for purpose.

Hopefully he will have to get permission from parliament, and they will refuse.

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

GrannyGravy13

Claremont

If the 'West' (incl Israel) can wage preemptive war illegally and with impunity - why would our 'enemies' not come to the conclusion that what is good for the West, cannot apply to them.

Dangerous in the extreme.

The West cannot allow Iran, which is an unstable rogue nation to have nuclear capabilities.

That is indeed hyperbole in the extreme.

The East will of course say exactly the same, especially as Israel has been allowed, illegally, to acquire NWs. And especially as they have been attacked by the West so many time recently- Iraq, Afghanistan and now Iran.

This is a very very dangerous game of ethnic, cultural and religious 'superiority' that gives one side all the rights. Can't you see this?

There have been attacks on U.K. soil and UK citizens by Iran backed terrorist groups.

Defence of our nation from any proposed future attacks, whether physical, cyber, chemical (which we know is Irans modus operandi) should always be paramount.

On that basis, all the arab countries that have been illegally attacked in the past 20+ years, would have the right to massive retalitation- and using exactly the same 'excuse. They would at least have the real excuse that they have been massively attacked by the West (+ Israel) with massive loss of life and everything else.

This cultural, ethnic, religious concept of utter superiority and 'right' is just so dangerous. War mongering of the worst and most dangerous possible kind, and over a long period of time.

Legally, according to the US Constitution, Trump would have had to seek permission. He did not.

Please sign the petition asking Starmer NOT to support this war

stoptrump.org.uk/petition-trump-iran/

thank you.

This cultural, ethnic, religious concept of utter superiority and 'right' is just so dangerous. War mongering of the worst and most dangerous possible kind, and over a long period of time.

Do you include the civil wars in the region too?
Syria, Yemen, Libya? Iraq, Lebanon?

“Lord, what fools these mortals be”, as Shakespeare so rightly said.

So how much support will Starmer have if he is asked to take the UK into this conflict? Very little I imagine and certainly not from me

I second that Parsley3.

To date, I have largely supported Keir Starmer in most of the decisions he’s made since becoming PM - even when many have been unpopular.

I’ve done so because I believe he has the best interests of our country at heart.

To support Netanyahu and Trump by taking action in this illegal war would, IMO, be highly detrimental for the UK. Keir Starmer would not have my support to do so!

I sincerely hope this government does not put us in that position.

Claremont

Please sign the petition asking Starmer NOT to support this war

stoptrump.org.uk/petition-trump-iran/

thank you.

Thanks Claremont - signed👍

I’m also writing to my MP to voice my opposition to the UK becoming involved.

Thank you Claremont I've signed.

He has been itching to start something with any nation since he come into office, why does he need to get involved, it should be left to the United Nations to sort this type of thing, that way it isn't any particular country getting involved more a joint task force.

62Granny

He has been itching to start something with any nation since he come into office, why does he need to get involved, it should be left to the United Nations to sort this type of thing, that way it isn't any particular country getting involved more a joint task force.

Who is “he” Trump or Starmer.

Claremont

Please sign the petition asking Starmer NOT to support this war

stoptrump.org.uk/petition-trump-iran/

thank you.

Thank you. I’ve signed.

Let’s all wait and see what the outcome of the emergency Cobra meeting Starmer is apparently chairing.

Just seen Starmer on the news stating he doesn’t want Iran to have nuclear weapons, but that now Trump has (allegedly) destroyed them, Starmer is stressing “de-escalation”

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Just seen Hegseth on TV saying this is, 'Peace throught strength.'

They are not interested in peace, they are only interested in the strength part.

It is frightening rhetoric coming out of the US just now.

We need to isolate Israel and the US- because they are clearly becoming the aggressors now and like others I shall be writing to my MP too.

I am very, very disappointed in Starmer's standpoint here and may well withdraw my LP membership and further support as a result of this.

We thought things were bad but they are about to get a whole lot worse...

Anniebach

Quote Maremia Sun 22-Jun-25 12:00:56
nann8, I thought it was Pakistan.

I too read it was Pakistan

So did I. For helping in the recent India/Pakistan problems.

Does anyone know

We have all been worried about Putin damaging any nuclear power stations in Ukraine because of radiation fall out.

So what about the Iranian nuclear power stations that USA has just apparently destroyed?

Claremont

Please sign the petition asking Starmer NOT to support this war

stoptrump.org.uk/petition-trump-iran/

thank you.

Nope

Just seen the video of Trump thanking God for his support and protecting USA troops.

I feel sick as never for a very long time.

WWmk2 - yes, a very pertinent question. Anyone off to Cyprus for a holiday?

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

And that is why we have had the UN.

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

In a very real sense, the world no longer has a choice between force and law. If civilization is to survive, it must choose the rule of law."

But force has been chosen.

Force can and does sometimes, come before the UN and International law.
You can tell me I am wrong.

Thanks Claremont, I've signed petition

Apparently they’ve arrested a British person this week, in Cyprus, who was spying for Iran.

fancythat

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

On possibly a different thread, a Poster said only 'reasonable' states should have nuclear weapons.
Who would be judged as 'reasonable'? Trump's USA?

And that is why we have had the UN.

Quotes from Eisenhower

“To attempt to hinder or stultify the United Nations or to deprecate its importance is to contribute to world unrest and, indeed, to incite the crises that from time to time so disturb all men”.

In a very real sense, the world no longer has a choice between force and law. If civilization is to survive, it must choose the rule of law."

But force has been chosen.

Force can and does sometimes, come before the UN and International law.
You can tell me I am wrong.

You know that you are wrong don’t you.

Cossy

Oreo

The US did the right thing in my view. It was a chance at the right time and they took it.
Hope for regime change and reduce any nuclear capability.

Good god! I’m horrified by your response, we have friends and family in the USA.

Iran have repeatedly stated that their nuclear facilities are not for developing weapons. Whether you believe that or not is almost irrelevant. Israel bombed them first and killed a high ranking Iranian, of course they retaliated, why Trump has to intervene (interfere) is beyond me, and this all certainly takes the heat of Israel bombing aid stations in Gaza!

What sort of world are we living in?

Trump is a madman, loose canon and frankly I find all of this very scary!

Little bit reminiscent of “weapons of mass destruction”

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Many of us have friends or family in the US.
They’re safe.
If Iran decide to retaliate against the US they’re fools, but in any case it would be against US’s military bases and shipping and interests, not the US itself.
No, I don’t believe that Iran doesn’t want nuclear weapons and it most certainly isn’t irrelevant.

Whitewavemark2

Apparently they’ve arrested a British person this week, in Cyprus, who was spying for Iran.

Thanks Whitewave.
Not surprising.

Whitewavemark2

Hopefully he will have to get permission from parliament, and they will refuse.

Will they tho?