Trump has attacked Iran

Whitewavemark2

I don’t take sides as you put it because, being mindful of the history of the region and the reason each country is behaving as it is, the geopolitics etc, I see no reason why a side should be taken. It is an odd thing to suggest imo, and a tad simplistic.

Thank you Wwm2- and that does not make you antisemitic, or pro Iran, at all.

Yes, Oreo, many of us see the massive danger of several unstable mad men waving weapons at each other, and more importantly, nuclear ones. You seem to believe the only mad men are on the East, but some of us can see they are on all sides. And that was always going to be the case if nuclear proliferation was allowed to continue. The cultural and political 'superiority' of the West makes no sense seen from the other side. The side that is being pre-emptivelly attacked, and will be even more determined therefore to have the means to protect themselves against the nuclear blackmail of the West.

Am I pro Iran. NO.

I think most know the danger but can see how things have got to this point.
The British have had their feet in Iran too when a British man found oil there.
It's a sad tale of land and resources grabbing over many years that has led to this point.
We are where we are unfortunately and not in a safe place.

Sometimes sitting on a fence allows one to see both sides and many on here seem to see only one direction, that of Israel, which completely controls and denies Palestine with the same rights as almost everywhere else. The right of food, water medical aid, a life, plus the right to freedom of movement and freedom from fear.
Hamas has said it wants to go, if there were elections in both Israel , where Netanyahu would without doubt lose and Palestine where a new government were elected, this might then be possible for a two state solution to come about.

Surely most people whoever they are, want to live in peace ?

GrannyGravy13

An Iran with a nuclear capability whilst also bankrolling and controlling some of the most heinous terrorists on the planet would be the entire worlds worse nightmare…

Tho strangely a few GNetters don’t see any danger.

You see no reason…..right.😬
A tad simplistic is actually seeing no reason to take a side.

I don’t take sides as you put it because, being mindful of the history of the region and the reason each country is behaving as it is, the geopolitics etc, I see no reason why a side should be taken. It is an odd thing to suggest imo, and a tad simplistic.

An Iran with a nuclear capability whilst also bankrolling and controlling some of the most heinous terrorists on the planet would be the entire worlds worse nightmare…

Being neutral indicates fence sitting for no good reason in this particular case.

As I just said, what’s ‘right’ about Iran?
How can anyone not take a side unless they think the regime is a good one and want them to acquire nuclear weapons.

Oreo

Taking no sides is not a virtue.

What an odd statement. Being neutral has nothing to do with being virtuous.

I for one think “a plague on all their houses”

Oreo

If they do, the US will be waiting and ready for them.

It's not just Israel they may go for. There are Iranian terrorists here and I don't want our people harmed either. There have been some dreadful attacks by terrorists in this country. My GD had friends caught up in the Manchester arena attack.
Wherever terrorists are from they are intent on killing.

What’s the ‘right’ on Iran’s side?

I’m not saying it is a virtue.

I’m merely saying what I believe.

Taking no sides is not a virtue.

There is no right on the Iran side.It’s a terrible regime which many of its own citizens were hoping the US or Israel would wipe out.It just cannot be allowed to have nuclear powers.

Easy to see which side you prefer then LizzieDrip

Oreo my point is that there is more than one perspective. There is right and wrong on both sides

I take no side when both are killing each other. As long as people see war and killing as binary right / wrong; your side / my side, the world is forever trapped in a doom loop of hell.

If they do, the US will be waiting and ready for them.

As the nuclear weapons were so far underground it is very difficult to be certain how much damage was done.
There are differing opinions on this.
I think Iran is very worrying and will retaliate strongly at some point in the future.

The CIA say there was substantial damage done to nuclear sites in Iran, as you would suppose given the bombs the US used.
There was no damage to the US base as the missiles were all shot down as Iran knew they would be.

Blimey, I wouldn’t trust the Ayatollah a millimetre…

No actually I can’t….., I have nothing but sadness for this continuing loss of life LizzieDrip

Easy to see which side you prefer then LizzieDrip

A victory speech claiming not much damage done and Iran has delivered a slap in the face to the US, and did damage to the American base. Followed by a decision to ban any checks on nuclear progress in Iran. They are named ‘mad mullahs’ and you can really see why

An alternative perspective:

A ‘victory’ speech by Trump (probably on Truth Social) claiming that Iran’s nuclear facilities have been ‘obliterated’. Denied by US defence officials, so Trump claims they’re wrong and he’s right.

US ally Israel is not subject to any checks on their nuclear progress.

Trump and Netanyahu are named ‘untrustworthy’ and you can really see why.

keepingquiet

The state of Israel came into being following WWII when millions of displaced Jews arrived there.

Following the horrors of the Holocaust made public,

Never Again , never doesn’t mean in a few years time

The ayatollah's speech was as expected. Full of bravado and hot air.
They will not surrender.
I'm just bothered by what horrors they are cooking up in their groups in our country.