New Abortion Bill

That's not accurate. Please read up about this much more carefully.

Allsorts

How can it be right to kill a baby full term? That's infanticide not abortion.

That is incorrect. Perhaps you should ask for this op to be retracted, then read up the actual facts and come back with a more accurate OP.

As the others have said, that is not the case. Many people have jumped to conclusions over this, when they actually need to read and digest the facts.

You’re wrong about this Allsorts, factually incorrect I mean. Your moral view is your own of course.

Some pointers to the facts that people keep mentioning would perhaps be a good idea. What allsorts says seems to be a fairly common interpretation.

Here's one: voxpoliticalonline.com/2025/06/18/the-new-abortion-law-what-it-means-why-it-matters-and-why-some-missed-the-point/#google_vignette

Kathleen Stock has also made excellent contributions on this issue.

Allsorts.

The law hasn't changed in that a therapeutic abortion is still illegal after 24 weeks (barring rare cases).

What's changed is that a woman can induce her own abortion up to full term without facing prosecution. Nobody can help her to do that without facing prosecution. The assumption is that no pregnant woman would do that without significant mental / emotional trauma and therefore needs help not punishment..... (I do have massive concerns for women who may be forced to carry out their own sex selective abortions- this is a serious problem in UK ).

Allsorts didn't mention the law as such, she asked a question. And was told to be quiet.

Sorry she did mention the bill in the thread title, but there was nothing wrong with the question.

The OP is completely inaccurate. The law regarding nedically approved termination has not changed. Its simply that vulnerabe women wont be investigated or prosecuted. Several women with miscarriages were subject to police investigation: an utterly disgrace. The religious fanatics will seek to use this to press for no abortions regardless of circumstances. One only has to look at the US to see the potential for backward thinking to succeed.

Oh for goodness sake we aren't the US.
Where did the Op mention medically induced abortion?
I am an atheist and am getting pretty cheesed off to any objection being written off as ' religion'

Galaxy.

Going back to OP yes you're right, she wasn't asking a q about the law but there was an assumption to be that abortion up to birth is now legal. Obviously it's not true across the board. But she is correct in that the new Bill makes it legal for a woman (reasons aside) to kill her unborn baby at any gestation.
The word 'kill' is hugely emotive- but it is technically accurate whether you are pro life or pro choice. Abortion is about killing life. The heat of the debate is all about whether people think that is morally justified (which it seems is the case).

I'm a Christian and also ^getting pretty cheesed off to any objection being written off as 'religion' Galaxy so share your frustration.

Abortion is morally awful for me, at any stage. But I completely support women who do not want to bring a disabled child into the world, or a 5th child that they know will break them mentally and financially. Some women don’t find out their baby has disabilities until around 20 weeks, which is why the abortion limit is 24 weeks.
I’m not sure what rules have changed though tbh.

Not a religious bone in my body but I have to say I am very uneasy about this new Bill. 24 weeks is already very late I feel- unless in extreme circumstances. I so hope that the new Bill will not see a rise in very late abortions using the 'extreme circumstances' exception.

Many here have expressed concern about the Assisted Diying bill- and the pressure on doctors and other staff. Which I found bizarre, as the patient would have to ake 2 separate clear requests, and in the end, take the potion themselves and go peacefully to sleep, with NO doctor or medical staff being forced to take part.

I have personally seen the effect on doctors and nurses after having to, as part of their job- perform late abortions. I think many have no idea how much staff are affected. So it really has to be in extreme circumstances only.

I'm uneasy about it too Claremont and like you think that aborting at 24 weeks is very late unless there are exceptional circumstances.

I agree with both Claremont and Smileless2012

Unless there is a serious risk to the mother, or proof that the baby outside the womb would be to severely damaged to live, 24 weeks should be the latest time for an abortion.

With medical breakthroughs premature babies are surviving earlier and earlier.

What has just happened is that the abortion debate (a debate pretty much settled in this country for years) has been blown wide open.

It's probably not relevant but I know someone who is bringing up her severely disabled son. He is disabled due to a botched attempt at a self induced abortion.
It should be easier for women in distress to access advice and help before they take drastic measures.

He's a wonderful boy BTW but his care has taken over his DM's life. He is almost a teenager but requires 24 hour care and always will.

No medical staff are compelled to assist in abortions at any stage in the UK. There is an opt out clause if they have a conscientious objection. The only time they may not opt out is when it's a matter of immediate life or death for the mother.

Not the reality for Junior doctors in RL. OH worked for a Catholic Consultant who refused on those religious grounds- it put even more pressure on other doctors to have to perform more.

Rosie51

No medical staff are compelled to assist in abortions at any stage in the UK. There is an opt out clause if they have a conscientious objection. The only time they may not opt out is when it's a matter of immediate life or death for the mother.

Thank you for posting the truth.

Presumably though those doctors could also have refused Claremont.