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Trump Asks Israel to Pardon Netsnyahu

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AGAA4 Sun 29-Jun-25 11:34:13

Trump wants corruption charges to be dropped for Netanyahu saying it is a witch hunt.
Trump has used witch hunt to deny his own alleged charges.
Opposition in Israel think this may be a strategy by Trump to force Netanyahu to do a deal to get the hostages back and end hostilities in Gaza.
It feels wrong that Netanyahu gets away with corruption but does the end justify the means?

Oreo Sun 29-Jun-25 16:21:04

AGAA4

It does beggar belief that the leader of Israel is accused of corruption. There seems to be plenty of evidence. The film producer has admitted to sending 'gifts' to Netanyahu in the hope of getting something back.

Like the gifts our top politicians get? Designer gear included.

Oreo Sun 29-Jun-25 16:25:05

Regardless, I think it would be worth dropping these charges if it helped getting the hostages back, the dead as well as the living and paved the way to an end of the conflict.

Jaberwok Sun 29-Jun-25 16:28:11

If you say so LizzieDrip, others would say differently.

Anniebach Sun 29-Jun-25 16:30:39

I certainly say differently Jaber

Jaberwok Sun 29-Jun-25 16:32:22

I agree Oreo, almost anything would be worth it to get those poor hostages back, the hostages the world seems to either forget or disregard. If of course any of them are left live, and if they are, what sort of condition they in, both mentally and physically.

Oreo Sun 29-Jun-25 16:34:20

I dread to think Jaberwok traumatised for life.

Frenchgalinspain Sun 29-Jun-25 16:37:05

Claremont

Just unbelievable- I wonder what s really going on between those two, and what promises and dodgy deals are going on behind this dreadful war and genocide.

Agreement 100% ..

Those 2 belong in El Salvador for all their war crimes against children without arms, women without arms and men without arms.

It is a true disgrace considering that the Israeli Prime Minister has always discussed the horrors of The Holocast.

However, the prohibiting of food and medical aide is a true crime against humanity ..

Spinnaker Sun 29-Jun-25 17:27:11

LizzieDrip

Please don’t compare Netanyahu with any UK Prime Minister. Shameful!

Even the Tory PMs, at their worst, were no Netanyahu!

Jaberwok didn't compare UK prime ministers with Netanyahu - the words "All Governments" were used. What a silly post.
The fact remains though that bribes are going on throughout governments worldwide.

Parsley3 Sun 29-Jun-25 17:37:23

Netanyahu has not yet been found guilty or not guilty because his trial is constantly being interrupted by the wars that Israel is involved in. I don’t understand how dropping the charges against him would influence the release of the hostages? I am sure someone can explain.

LizzieDrip Sun 29-Jun-25 17:45:09

^Jaberwok didn't compare UK prime ministers with Netanyahu - the words "All Governments" were used. What a silly post.
The fact remains though that bribes are going on throughout governments worldwide^

Spinnaker I presume the UK government was included within the words ‘all governments’.

Silly post in your opinion🤷‍♀️

In my opinion, to liken any UK government, that I know of, to Netanyahu’s regime is beyond silly … it’s shameful.

AGAA4 Sun 29-Jun-25 17:45:59

For those who say corruption goes on everywhere I would say Well done Israel for not tolerating it.
There are no excuses.

Maremia Sun 29-Jun-25 18:02:28

Think I read a day or so ago that the Irish Government was declaring the events in Gaza to be a genocide? If so, then guilt for that goes straight to the top.

leeds22 Sun 29-Jun-25 18:09:11

He wants the Nobel Peace Prize to = Obama. Hopefully the awarding committee won't be fooled.

Anniebach Sun 29-Jun-25 18:09:44

Quote Parsley3 Sun 29-Jun-25 17:37:23
Netanyahu has not yet been found guilty or not guilty because his trial is constantly being interrupted by the wars that Israel is involved in. I don’t understand how dropping the charges against him would influence the release of the hostages? I am sure someone can explain.

You believe he started the war with Hamas to avoid prosecution?

MaizieD Sun 29-Jun-25 18:56:09

You believe he started the war with Hamas to avoid prosecution?

Where did she say that?

I, too, don't quite see how dropping the charges will make any difference. Unless, of course, Netanyahu is saying that e won't stop destroying Gaza and killing Palestinians until they are dropped.

And I still don't understand how one of the very best intelligence services in the world managed to miss the blatantly obvious signs that Hamas were planning something very big on the border with Israel.

Anniebach Sun 29-Jun-25 19:09:15

Quote MaizieD Sun 29-Jun-25 18:56:09
You believe he started the war with Hamas to avoid prosecution?

Where did she say that?

I, too, don't quite see how dropping the charges will make any difference. Unless, of course, Netanyahu is saying that e won't stop destroying Gaza and killing Palestinians until they are dropped.

And I still don't understand how one of the very best intelligence services in the world managed to miss the blatantly obvious signs that Hamas were planning something very big on the border with Israel.

I asked a question, hence the ?

MayBee70 Sun 29-Jun-25 19:39:26

“The families of hostages say that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is disregarding the people by “choosing territories over hostages.”

The Hostage and Missing Families Forum says it is releasing the statement in response to the announcement by an “Israeli official” earlier this morning that the cabinet plan for operations that was approved last night includes the “conquering of Gaza and holding territories.”

The forum represents the majority of relatives of those held captive in Gaza.”
5 May. The Times Israel ( not a publication I’m familiar with).

Anniebach Sun 29-Jun-25 19:47:23

How large a majority ?

Claremont Sun 29-Jun-25 19:52:29

Can someone please explain- how would dropping the charges make any difference to the release of hostages? Please.

Like many, I have come to the conclusion that Netanyahu does not care one bit for the hostages.

growstuff Sun 29-Jun-25 20:46:35

Claremont

Can someone please explain- how would dropping the charges make any difference to the release of hostages? Please.

Like many, I have come to the conclusion that Netanyahu does not care one bit for the hostages.

Presumably Trump thinks that Netanyahu is deliberately prolonging the war to avoid legal proceedings. I guess the idea is that he would make more of an effort to get the hostages back and maybe come to some kind of truce if there were no reason to continue with the war.

It sounds like pie in the sky to me. Destroying Gaza seems hard-wired into Netanyahu's psyche and, if he were prepared to compromise, some of his hard-line supporters most definitely wouldn't agree to a truce until Gaza is destroyed.

Not only that, but Netanyahu needs to stand trial for what he's allegedly done (unlike Trump).

growstuff Sun 29-Jun-25 20:51:18

MayBee70

“The families of hostages say that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is disregarding the people by “choosing territories over hostages.”

The Hostage and Missing Families Forum says it is releasing the statement in response to the announcement by an “Israeli official” earlier this morning that the cabinet plan for operations that was approved last night includes the “conquering of Gaza and holding territories.”

The forum represents the majority of relatives of those held captive in Gaza.”
5 May. The Times Israel ( not a publication I’m familiar with).

The Times of Israel is the largest (by audience size) English-language Jewish and Israeli news source. It describes itself as centrist.

Cossy Sun 29-Jun-25 20:56:40

Anniebach

I didn’t know he had been found guilty of the crimes , surely
it’s been said often here that Netanyahu allowed the attack on
Israel by Hamas to take place and he went to war with Hamas to avoid prosecution , seems Trump didn’t know this

I do not believe Netanyahu “allowed” Hamas to attack his people, torture them, kidnap them, kill them.

I don’t like him much and I don’t he’s a good protective leader, but this doesn’t in any way excuse Hamas.

We can care about the needless loss of life on both sides, and not support either Hamas nor the Israeli govt.

Anniebach Sun 29-Jun-25 21:18:22

Cossy I have never believed Netanyahu allowed Hamas to
attack Israel, one man could order so many to remain silent ? No.

growstuff Sun 29-Jun-25 21:49:13

Cossy

Anniebach

I didn’t know he had been found guilty of the crimes , surely
it’s been said often here that Netanyahu allowed the attack on
Israel by Hamas to take place and he went to war with Hamas to avoid prosecution , seems Trump didn’t know this

I do not believe Netanyahu “allowed” Hamas to attack his people, torture them, kidnap them, kill them.

I don’t like him much and I don’t he’s a good protective leader, but this doesn’t in any way excuse Hamas.

We can care about the needless loss of life on both sides, and not support either Hamas nor the Israeli govt.

Why is it so difficult for people to understand that people can condemn Hamas but simultaneously not think that Netanyahu is blameless? He's a canny political operator, who watches his own back, and I don't trust him. That doesn't mean for one moment that I condone what Hamas have done. Just because one "side" is wrong doesn't automatically make the other "side" right or blameless. (sigh)

Parsley3 Sun 29-Jun-25 23:20:36

Anniebach

Quote Parsley3 Sun 29-Jun-25 17:37:23
Netanyahu has not yet been found guilty or not guilty because his trial is constantly being interrupted by the wars that Israel is involved in. I don’t understand how dropping the charges against him would influence the release of the hostages? I am sure someone can explain.

You believe he started the war with Hamas to avoid prosecution?

No I don't believe that but I question why Israeli intelligence weren't on to what was happening on their border.