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Trump Asks Israel to Pardon Netsnyahu

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AGAA4 Sun 29-Jun-25 11:34:13

Trump wants corruption charges to be dropped for Netanyahu saying it is a witch hunt.
Trump has used witch hunt to deny his own alleged charges.
Opposition in Israel think this may be a strategy by Trump to force Netanyahu to do a deal to get the hostages back and end hostilities in Gaza.
It feels wrong that Netanyahu gets away with corruption but does the end justify the means?

Claremont Fri 04-Jul-25 19:36:48

Intolerable. Truly.

AGAA4 Fri 04-Jul-25 19:37:14

It doesn't really matter if you don't believe me Anniebach I do research and find things out. Your opinions are yours alone and not many agree.

Anniebach Fri 04-Jul-25 19:42:47

Thank you AGAA44 yes I post my opinions l the socialising story comes from BBC , they have been doing much apologising this year .

Research ? since start of the war number of deaths have been given by Hamas, they give facts

Claremont Fri 04-Jul-25 20:22:27

Research? Journalists should be there to monitor what is going on. THAT would be valuable research.

Not a massive fan of Piers Morgan, but here he is totally right.
Why does Israel not allow journalists in Gaza? The answer is clear and obvious.

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Maremia Fri 04-Jul-25 20:41:52

Thanks Claremont for that other post.

AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 09:09:48

Hamas has agreed to the peace talks.
They also want an end to the bombing in Gaza. So it seems they want peace not just a ceasefire.
I doubt Israel will agree to their terms or stick to them if they do agree.
As somebody senior in the Knesset wants the war to go on "with all my heart".

Anniebach Sat 05-Jul-25 10:00:12

Terrorists demands are supported ,

Maremia Sat 05-Jul-25 10:15:20

The post at the top of BBC online this morning outlines some of the 'positions' that are being put forward towards the deal. It's there for all to read.
Will have a look at The Guardian then CNN later.
Not great, if that's actually how the Knesset feels.

AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 10:24:57

Sadly I think we know what the aim of Israel is and they have said they will not stop fighting until Hamas is completely destroyed. That of course means all Palestinians.

Maremia Sat 05-Jul-25 10:30:19

I think, but am not totally sure, that Israel depends a lot, on military and financial support from the USA. At this point in time support from the USA depends on Trump. He really wants that Nobel Peace Prize.

Anniebach Sat 05-Jul-25 10:40:48

Quote AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 10:24:57
Sadly I think we know what the aim of Israel is and they have said they will not stop fighting until Hamas is completely destroyed. That of course means all Palestinians

All Palestinians are supporters of Hamas or are Hamas ?

AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 11:10:18

Worded wrongly I meant all Palestinians whether Hamas or not will be killed. Israel are already doing that by denying aid.
Aljazeera has said that big companies like Microsoft and Amazon are aiding Israel.
I hope Trump can bring peace by putting pressure on Israel.

Smileless2012 Sat 05-Jul-25 11:29:21

Then he should withdraw military and financial support Maremia. Not sure how anyone can be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize when they support genocide confused.

Anniebach Sat 05-Jul-25 11:35:50

Quote AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 11:10:18
Worded wrongly I meant all Palestinians whether Hamas or not will be killed. Israel are already doing that by denying aid.
Aljazeera has said that big companies like Microsoft and Amazon are aiding Israel.
I hope Trump can bring peace by putting pressure on Israel.

Putting pressure on Hamas ? yes silly question

AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 11:45:36

Smileless2012

Then he should withdraw military and financial support Maremia. Not sure how anyone can be the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize when they support genocide confused.

Yes. I agree.

Maremia Sat 05-Jul-25 13:41:06

I absolutely agree that Trump should get nowhere near that Nobel Peace Prize, but in Trump's mind he is entitled.
He has no control over Putin, and so the tragedy in Ukraine will rumble on. But he might be able to manoevre Netanyahu, and that could be why he is asking pardon for Netanyahu's geniocidal crimes.
Gets peace in Gaza, gets the Peace Prize.

Smileless2012 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:21:27

Peace is just the first step. Whose going to pay for and oversee the rebuilding of Gaza? What are the long term prospects for Palestinians in Gaza and on the West Bank?

Maybe Trump should ask Palestinians whether they feel he'd ever be entitled to the Nobel Peace Prizehmm.

Maremia Sat 05-Jul-25 16:51:34

Thing is though, I don't think Trump asks for others' opinions, instead he demands from others.

AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 17:11:10

It would make a mockery of the Nobel Peace Prize if it's awarded to Trump.

Claremont Sat 05-Jul-25 19:51:30

No-one has put Jewish people are more risk than him for a very very long time.

Grantanow Mon 07-Jul-25 09:34:07

How can he be pardoned before he's been convicted?

Anniebach Mon 07-Jul-25 11:44:42

I have asked the same question Grantanow , no answers

AGAA4 Mon 07-Jul-25 13:49:43

Grantanow

How can he be pardoned before he's been convicted?

Trump wants the corruption charges for Netanyahu to be dropped. He has been indicted on several charges and has had to relinquish his ministry portfolios other than PM.
The trial is ongoing. The former PM had a 6 year prison sentence for corruption.

Anniebach Mon 07-Jul-25 14:09:36

Then he hasn’t been found guilty

AGAA4 Mon 07-Jul-25 15:05:00

Not yet but there are worse criminal charges to be faced after these.