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A 19 Year Old Heading Children and Family Services?

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windmill1 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:30:30

Reform councillor Charles Pugsley, 19, has been given charge of Children's and Family Services.

It's happening at Leicestershire County Council and it's in today's Guardian.

This way to the Mad Hatters Tea Party......

BlueBelle Sat 05-Jul-25 15:33:31

That’s totally ridiculous I do hope people who are so keen on Reform !!! read and digest this

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:35:04

The same council also has a 22 year old Reform councillor as Deputy Council Leader and holder of the adult social care portfolio. He allegedly expressed the view that depression isn't real.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:36:41

BlueBelle They'll be absolutely fine as long as they don't need any form of social care.

AGAA4 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:43:02

He's not much more than a child himself. What experience can he possibly bring to that role.

Allira Sat 05-Jul-25 15:46:06

AGAA4

He's not much more than a child himself. What experience can he possibly bring to that role.

Being a child?
After all, he hasn't had that long to forget what it's like.

ferry23 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:46:18

growstuff

BlueBelle They'll be absolutely fine as long as they don't need any form of social care.

Doubt they'll need social care - more like childcare hmm

MayBee70 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:46:19

We’ve got one of a similar age on our local council. Got elected because he talked a lot about a local issue that’s causing a lot of problems but it will be interesting to see if he does anything about it.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:49:22

Allira

AGAA4

He's not much more than a child himself. What experience can he possibly bring to that role.

Being a child?
After all, he hasn't had that long to forget what it's like.

He's also a registered landlord, so maybe doesn't have the same experience of life as those children needing social care.

Rosie51 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:49:24

Mhairi Black was only 20 when she was elected as an MP, and she was celebrated for her youth and vitality as I recall.
Age isn’t the issue here.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:50:06

ferry23

growstuff

BlueBelle They'll be absolutely fine as long as they don't need any form of social care.

Doubt they'll need social care - more like childcare hmm

It's the other one (22 year old) who's in charge of adult social care.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:50:38

Rosie51

Mhairi Black was only 20 when she was elected as an MP, and she was celebrated for her youth and vitality as I recall.
Age isn’t the issue here.

But she wasn't given any real responsibility.

Rosie51 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:51:20

growstuff

Allira

AGAA4

He's not much more than a child himself. What experience can he possibly bring to that role.

Being a child?
After all, he hasn't had that long to forget what it's like.

He's also a registered landlord, so maybe doesn't have the same experience of life as those children needing social care.

How many heads of Children’s services have experienced the same life as the children needing social care?

Rosie51 Sat 05-Jul-25 15:54:01

growstuff

Rosie51

Mhairi Black was only 20 when she was elected as an MP, and she was celebrated for her youth and vitality as I recall.
Age isn’t the issue here.

But she wasn't given any real responsibility.

I’d suggest her constituents would hope she’d be responsible for promoting their interests. Is any MP not in a position of responsibility, surely that’s what they’re paid for.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:54:47

Rosie51

growstuff

Allira

AGAA4

He's not much more than a child himself. What experience can he possibly bring to that role.

Being a child?
After all, he hasn't had that long to forget what it's like.

He's also a registered landlord, so maybe doesn't have the same experience of life as those children needing social care.

How many heads of Children’s services have experienced the same life as the children needing social care?

Very true, but I would expect them to have had experience of life. Many heads of children's services come from an education or social work background. Allira was trying to say that being a child meant that he better experience. I hope he knows how to read a balance sheet.

TerriBull Sat 05-Jul-25 15:55:12

Oh well William Pitt the Younger was PM in his early 20s. Anyway shouldn't they all be Labour supporters at their age shock

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:55:35

Rosie51

growstuff

Rosie51

Mhairi Black was only 20 when she was elected as an MP, and she was celebrated for her youth and vitality as I recall.
Age isn’t the issue here.

But she wasn't given any real responsibility.

I’d suggest her constituents would hope she’d be responsible for promoting their interests. Is any MP not in a position of responsibility, surely that’s what they’re paid for.

Yes, she was good at that, but she never had any portfolio, for which she was responsible,

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:56:06

TerriBull

Oh well William Pitt the Younger was PM in his early 20s. Anyway shouldn't they all be Labour supporters at their age shock

Why do you say that? It doesn't seem very relevant.

TerriBull Sat 05-Jul-25 15:56:33

Bernadette Devlin, anyone remember her? she was very young when she became an MP.

TerriBull Sat 05-Jul-25 15:57:38

It's not very relevant really, I agree he's long dead.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:57:57

Incidentally, William Pitt was 24 when he became PM.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:58:23

TerriBull

It's not very relevant really, I agree he's long dead.

I meant the comment about young people being Labour supporters.

Allira Sat 05-Jul-25 15:58:36

Rosie51

Mhairi Black was only 20 when she was elected as an MP, and she was celebrated for her youth and vitality as I recall.
Age isn’t the issue here.

Well, the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

Samuel Carling was a City Councillor in Cambridge at the age of 19 or 20. During his tenure, Carling held the office of Executive Councillor for Open Spaces and City Services,[22] and was a member of the Skills Committee of the Cambridgeshire and Peterborough Combined Authority for two years. He then ran for Parliament and became an MP at the age of 22, holding both jobs until recently.
Was he also completing his degree at the same time?

But he's Labour, so is that ok?

According to The Guardian last year In a parliament full of fresh faces, none are more energised than the members of generation Z who are taking up their seats this week.

So that's all right, then.

growstuff Sat 05-Jul-25 15:58:49

TerriBull

Bernadette Devlin, anyone remember her? she was very young when she became an MP.

She didn't have an administrative role either.

Witzend Sat 05-Jul-25 15:59:42

MayBee70

We’ve got one of a similar age on our local council. Got elected because he talked a lot about a local issue that’s causing a lot of problems but it will be interesting to see if he does anything about it.

Maybe they couldn’t find anyone else…

After she graduated my dd worked for a while for our local (LD) MP. TBH dd soon went off the idea of any sort of political career, but she was urged very strongly to stand for the local council. They apparently had great difficulty in finding anyone ‘normal’ and reasonably presentable to stand.

After she eventually made it clear that it wasn’t going to happen, they said, ‘Well, how about your mum or dad?’