Afghan mess up

I’ve just read this Hansard report.
Conclusion: the recruitment was chaotic. Plus the last government lied in parliament on this issue. Shock horror who would believe it 😱

Added to that ( Afghans still managing to claim asylum despite their convictions) the Ministry of Justice says that according to crime figures Afghans are committing 20% more sexual crimes than other nationalities.
Something more to think about.

🙄. So your post isn’t based on anything factual just opinion.

That’s all I needed to know - thank you

You are wrong, but I’ll forgive you this time 😄
My response was polite btw it’s my policy not to go off researching for links for posters who can do it themselves.

Oreo

When recruiting Afghan men it didn’t matter to the Army if they were wonderful family men or utter b******s out in the field but they never thought the men would be claiming asylum here at that time, so you can see how it was.

Another dreamt up opinion or fact?

Oreo

No I refuse to do links and references to those who ask or demand them on forum threads.I think posters should look for information themselves.
It’s been reported widely recently.

That’s the point - I’ve been trying hard to find this apparent issue - particularly your sentence that talks about employing sex Offenders etc but I simply can’t find it anywhere.

I did think a polite request might enlist a polite response😄😄

Obviously I was mistaken.

I therefore will assume that your post was something you dreamt up after reading one report about an afghan sex offender who was given refugee status because he was at risk of being killed if returned to Afghanistan.

However if I’m wrong I will be very happy to be corrected.

When recruiting Afghan men it didn’t matter to the Army if they were wonderful family men or utter b******s out in the field but they never thought the men would be claiming asylum here at that time, so you can see how it was.

No I refuse to do links and references to those who ask or demand them on forum threads.I think posters should look for information themselves.
It’s been reported widely recently.

oreo can you give me a reference or link to your post please, as I’m having difficulty establishing what you are asserting in your post.

What I will say is that Rory Stewart - whose knowledge of that area (he of course denies that he worked for British intelligence) - is second to none, has never made such a claim.

Freya5

Maremia

I'd just like to mention that it would have been much, much more than 400+ British soldiers not coming home, if these Afghan recruits had not helped to save all the British Army lives that they did.
We owe them thanks for that, and we owe them the keeping of the promises made.

Not all were kosher to the Armed services. Some had already been refused. Yet here they are. Wonderful!!!!

Yes, it is true that some Afghan men were turned down for asylum here even though they had worked for the British Army ( you must remember they worked for money, they didn’t help us out of kindness) because they had been convicted of sex crimes and violence.Some of those will now be here.
It’s a mess alright, but we do have a duty to help as many as possible even so.If any crimes are committed here by them then they should receive long prison sentences as we can’t send them back.Most will settle here well tho I should think.

It's all starting to look like a Tory cover up, especially now it has come out that MI6 officers were named on the list, that the person responsible was a serving Royal Marine and that a high proportion of the Afghan applicants were fakers. I noticed the Tory on Newsnight refer to the person as an 'official' - a clear obfuscation to direct blame to the Civil Service rather than the military.

LizzieDrip

I agree growstuff.

Some disturbing tropes are being rolled out on this thread.

I agree. It's misinformation promoted by Jenrick on manoeuvres to replace Badenoch.

I was responding to a post about GB news and the watching of it... Yes we'll have to take the Afghans in if they helped British forces I agree with that...Tony Blair has a lot to answer for...he shouldn't have taken us into Afghanistan with the Americans in the first place ....Maremia is this ok to post?

'Not all were kosher to the Armed Service' what do you mean by that?
Here who are?
Have you missed out some crucial information that would clarify your posts, Freya.

The title of this thread has nothing to do with mass migration.
This thread is about the UK not fulfilling its promise of safety to people who helped our troops in Iraq.
Intrigued to know which Politician from which party mentioned the issue in the commons.

growstuff

For those who don't like links, here's an excerpt from the article:

"Johnny Mercer, the former Conservative MP for Plymouth Moor View, who served alongside the SBS in Afghanistan, testified to the Afghan inquiry that he had spoken to former members of the Triples and heard "horrific" allegations of murder by UK Special Forces.

Mercer said it was "very clear to me that there is a pool of evidence that exists within the Afghan [special forces] community that are now in the United Kingdom that should contribute to this Inquiry".

The MoD began a review last year of all 2,022 resettlement applications referred to and rejected by UK Special Forces. All contained what MoD caseworkers on the resettlement scheme regarded as "credible" evidence of service with the Triples units."

Thanks for the link growstuff.

The article certainly makes very interesting reading!

To have left behind any of those Afghans who helped us is an absolute disgrace. As the article says, many will now be dead at the hands of the Taliban, or living in hiding along with their families.

Shameful!

Yes I watch GB news but not too much....yes they are a right wing news channel but do broadcast news stories that other news channels won't. They often have guests on with differing views which I enjoy listening to.. although it's annoying when they all talk over each over but it's lively..I think it broadens the mind to listen to all political comments. My opinions on immigration are not based on my GB news viewing but on my lived experience. Not everyone is in favour of mass immigration and they are allowed to have that opinion. So posters saying 'Some people watch too much GB news' have probably never watched the channel for any length of time. I see Diane Abbott is now an Independent because of her racist views.

For those who don't like links, here's an excerpt from the article:

"Johnny Mercer, the former Conservative MP for Plymouth Moor View, who served alongside the SBS in Afghanistan, testified to the Afghan inquiry that he had spoken to former members of the Triples and heard "horrific" allegations of murder by UK Special Forces.

Mercer said it was "very clear to me that there is a pool of evidence that exists within the Afghan [special forces] community that are now in the United Kingdom that should contribute to this Inquiry".

The MoD began a review last year of all 2,022 resettlement applications referred to and rejected by UK Special Forces. All contained what MoD caseworkers on the resettlement scheme regarded as "credible" evidence of service with the Triples units."

Freya5

Maremia

I'd just like to mention that it would have been much, much more than 400+ British soldiers not coming home, if these Afghan recruits had not helped to save all the British Army lives that they did.
We owe them thanks for that, and we owe them the keeping of the promises made.

Not all were kosher to the Armed services. Some had already been refused. Yet here they are. Wonderful!!!!

Do you mean these Afghan commandos Freya5?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy9l9elr95zo

Why do you think all their applications were rejected?

LizzieDrip

Whitewavemark2

Some people have been watching too much GBNews and reading too much DM. You need to be more selective in your information gathering.

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Hear hear, WWM!

MayBee70

eazybee

Yet another shambles, where there does not seem to be any account of how many have entered, how many are genuine claimants, where they are, and if their families are allowed to come too.
This country is being filled up with young men from violent countries, and no track is kept of their whereabouts.

Afghan people who worked for us and helped us died and are still at risk now because of a ‘mistake’. And all you can think about are people coming here that shouldn’t be. Words fail me….

Yes, Maybee I simply could not believe that post you replied to. they risked their lives for us, are clearly anti Taliban, their families may well suffer in revenge.. and....words fail or it would be modded!

Whitewavemark2

Some people have been watching too much GBNews and reading too much DM. You need to be more selective in your information gathering.

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Maremia

I'd just like to mention that it would have been much, much more than 400+ British soldiers not coming home, if these Afghan recruits had not helped to save all the British Army lives that they did.
We owe them thanks for that, and we owe them the keeping of the promises made.

Not all were kosher to the Armed services. Some had already been refused. Yet here they are. Wonderful!!!!

Whitewave 🌞.

Some people have been watching too much GBNews and reading too much DM. You need to be more selective in your information gathering.