Afghan mess up

These afghans will not be asylum seekers - they will probably be immediately classed as refugees and work, pay tax and contribute to British society, just as they contributed to helping the U.K. when in Afghanistan.

The security service H.O. Etc know exactly who these men are - we recruited, trained and paid them fgs.

This silly “oh my they might be sexual predictors” etc is ridiculous and out of all proportion.

Maremia

On this thread Skydancer, we are talking about the Afghan Recruits who saved the lives of many of our own troops in Afghanistan and who were promised to be kept safe. The ones who remain in that sad place are now being hunted down by the Taliban.
We are not 'inviting them in' we are trying to pay our dues.

Only a fool would agree suggest that they are all interpreters. It was mentioned in the Commons yesterday that we must be very careful which of them we allow in for obvious reasons.

And now we are told that very sensitive information was sent re our secret ops 🤬

Ok Maremia I take your point but I wouldn't be comfortable with an HMO as a neighbour with 3 or 4 Afghan men living there if I had teenage daughter's and I think a lot of families in the area I live in would agree with me. If that wouldn't bother you all well and good but I'm allowed to have that view. I live in an area with a lot of terraced houses and some are being bought to turn into HMOs. The government are trying to get AS out of the hotels and into this kind of accommodation .

The answer is that the person most likely to harm you is your husband, ex-partner, someone you know.
Please do check it for yourself.

Well I'd guess the answer is men...the Afghan recruits not men then ?

Why not ask google to tell you 'who is the most frequent perpetrator of violence against women?'
Bet you'll never guess the answer.
A wee clue, it is not the Afghans Recruits now living in Britain.

He was British..

On this thread Skydancer, we are talking about the Afghan Recruits who saved the lives of many of our own troops in Afghanistan and who were promised to be kept safe. The ones who remain in that sad place are now being hunted down by the Taliban.
We are not 'inviting them in' we are trying to pay our dues.

Could someone remind me, what was Saville's ethnicity?

Sorry first sentence should read;
If just over 21%of those charged for sexual offences were non-British then the remaining 79% were?

If just over 21%of the people charged for sexual offences then the remaining 79% were ?
I don't know where some posters are getting their information, but we have a responsibility to these families.who risked their lives to help our forces.I am sure that there is a large difference between the ordinary Afghans and the Taliban, who are trying to crush the country by their cruel, oppressive and outdated ways.It is heartbreaking to see how women and girls are being denied a free way of life with education, work, hairdressing, music being denied them.This is the Taliban's doing.

There were also released details of over 100 British special forces and spies with the Afghans details. The Taliban have those too.

I agree growstuff.

Some disturbing tropes are being rolled out on this thread.

Dorisdodar

J52 no it's not....Maremia other sources are available...Lafergar I think we are in dangerous territory if we don't highlight the fact a race of people are 20 times more likely to commit sexual offences than British citizens.

That is utter rubbish!

Afghans don't top the list in numbers. Not only that, but there is no indication what percentage of residents those figures represent.

Where on earth do you get the idea that Afghans are 20 times more likely to commit sexual offences than British citizens? It's true that just over 21% of the people charged for sexual offences were non-British, but the figures are meaningless without knowing how many people of each ethnic background are resident in West Yorkshire.

Even a rough guess shows that it's nowhere near 20 times.

Surely we have a duty of care to those who risked their lives day in and day out to help our military?

Just like Gaza, Afghanistan was another example of what was neither reasonable nor proportionate after 9/11.

It completely failed in its mission, and gave false hope to so many women and Afghans.

GrannyGravy13

I think it’s naive not to recognise that some countries have totally different accepted cultural practices to us here in the U.K.

Agree. But we still invite them in.

When those men are hunted down by the Taliban, their families will fall into destitution, and it is destitution which makes those other fathers, mentioned upthread, sell their daughters, as you have already indicated...for food.

pinkquartz, yes horrific. The tragedy is that we can do nothing to help all of those girls.
But we can help some.
We can help the daughters of those Afghan Recruits,who were promised safety, in return for helping our troops, in extremely difficult situations.

Dorisdodar

J52 no it's not....Maremia other sources are available...Lafergar I think we are in dangerous territory if we don't highlight the fact a race of people are 20 times more likely to commit sexual offences than British citizens.

There are no words.

'More likely to' is no way the same as 'has already committed'.
In September we will be giving a welcome, with knobs on, to a man already convicted of sexual offences.

J52 no it's not....Maremia other sources are available...Lafergar I think we are in dangerous territory if we don't highlight the fact a race of people are 20 times more likely to commit sexual offences than British citizens.

This appears to be a major scandal that has been hushed up to protect, not the afghans but the British government.

I'd just like to mention that it would have been much, much more than 400+ British soldiers not coming home, if these Afghan recruits had not helped to save all the British Army lives that they did.
We owe them thanks for that, and we owe them the keeping of the promises made.