Brexit. We never stood a chance. The elites were against it.

Interesting. Must investigate.

Ps I didn't vote for it before anyone accuses me of bias 😁

Ok FGT.

I’m all ears - please tell me how the UK, and the lives of ordinary citizens, have actually benefitted from Brexit.

This article is two months old but it was in The Guardian, referring to a letter sent to Schwab resulting in his resignation.

The letter also accused Schwab of manipulating the WEF global competitiveness report in order to curry favour with certain governments. The publication ranks countries based on criteria such as education, infrastructure, labour market and health systems, and is a point of reference for the annual Davos meeting.

www.theguardian.com/business/2025/apr/24/wef-launches-investigation-into-founder-klaus-schwab#:~:text=Schwab%2C%2087%2C%20is%20said%20to,founded%20the%20WEF%20in%201971.

LizzieDrip

Ok FGT.

I’m all ears - please tell me how the UK, and the lives of ordinary citizens, have actually benefitted from Brexit.

Like all political changes, have the majority noticed much difference?

I seem to recall that before Sir Starmer became PM he is on record as saying he puts DAVOS (WEF) ahead of the U.K. parliament…

So no noticeable improvements to the UK because of Brexit Allira?

Please someone tell me how our lives have improved!

I don't quite understand why Schwab's comment meant that Brexit never stood a chance. Never stood a chance of what?

After all, you got Brexit.

Now perhaps you could address LizzieDrip's request?

Or are you thinking that there's some global conspiracy to keep the UK's economy stagnant?

LizzieDrip

Ok FGT.

I’m all ears - please tell me how the UK, and the lives of ordinary citizens, have actually benefitted from Brexit.

What some call "benefits" others dont.
So it is all subjective.

My two biggest things are things that did not happen. Thankfully.
Which is still a benefit.
People can easily forget of things which could have happened, which is why sometimes, people say, there were no benefits.

For me, we did not get dragged in to an EU army.
Which to me may have not acted as I would have wanted it to.
It could so easily have become an aggressor.

2nd point - far more tied up in EU than we are even now.

And no, as I say[still considering a name change], I will not discuss things and provide endless links, to the nth degree.

Oh dear MAGA and the elite - their influence spreads far and wide.

So how to explain the following.

Trade exports to the EU has dropped by over 18%.

Our competitiveness has decreased which will lead to lower productivity and wage growth in the future.

Trade barriers have increased costs to businesses.

The only area that has benefited is NI.

A drop in investment. Businesses prefer access to a huge economic market like the EU.

Some areas have shown more resilience like the service sector.

The has undoubtedly been other impacts on the British economy like covid, the Ukraine war etc, but overall the result it is generally agreed has been negative and continues to be so.

Thanks fancythat - at least you’ve had a go.

I realise it’s all subjective, and I accept that. Nevertheless, if I’d voted in favour of such an important issue I would expect that, 9 years down the line, I’d be able to point to several benefits … particularly if I still supported it.

Surely, if Brexit was such a good thing, the Brexiteers would still be shouting about from the rooftops.

How has Brexit improved lives in the UK?

LizzieDrip, Brexit was never properly implemented, if it had been we wouldn't be in the mess we are in, corruption and betrayal have been rife.

LizzieDrip

Ok FGT.

I’m all ears - please tell me how the UK, and the lives of ordinary citizens, have actually benefitted from Brexit.

We were never meant to prosper.
Mr Schwab wanted the world to see us as a basket case.
Who’s going to invest their money in that 🤷‍♀️
That’s the power that these oxygen thieves have. I include the Bilderberg group in that description.

petra 👍

We are just lied to constantly.

So, Brexit’s not been so great because the government that persuaded people to vote for it didn’t implement it properly and / or
the UK government has been an innocent victim of world wide ‘prejudice’ for the past 9 years!

No benefits to mention then … but not our fault!

Has anyone considered that Brexit didn't live up to expectations because it wasn't as simple as Leavers were led to believe?

A global conspiracy to make it fail is a wonderful belief. It precludes having to deal with the practicalities of international trade.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We are just lied to constantly.

You certainly were. Lied to massively by the Leave campaigners.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We are just lied to constantly.

I agree we were lied to on a grand scale.

Begs the question why anyone would believe the head liar, NF, ever again🤷‍♀️

LizzieDrip

So, Brexit’s not been so great because the government that persuaded people to vote for it didn’t implement it properly and / or
the UK government has been an innocent victim of world wide ‘prejudice’ for the past 9 years!

No benefits to mention then … but not our fault!

Yes those things and also the Pandemic years, the war in Ukraine and the increasing costs of housing immigrants from Afghanistan and those who claim asylum arriving on small boats. The billions we have had to spend have put back any Brexit benefits if we’re talking of the economy.
There are other benefits not linked to money of course which mean we can pick and choose which things we want to do as a country not linked to the EU.Leaving the ECHR may be one such.Make trade deals freely as well.
I didn’t vote for it at the time but since then I think it was very likely the right thing to do.
I haven’t noticed that anything is worse now in any case.

MaizieD

FriedGreenTomatoes2

We are just lied to constantly.

You certainly were. Lied to massively by the Leave campaigners.

And by David Cameron and George Osborne too!

I think we've done pretty well to overcome some of the hurdles which inevitably came our way due to Brexit. At least that shows some resourcefulness, and the UK does exhibit a certain toughness.
I don't think we could have been better prepared because no one knows until in the situation.
Mr Schwab sounds like the rest of them, self serving and arrogant.

JudyBloom

LizzieDrip, Brexit was never properly implemented, if it had been we wouldn't be in the mess we are in, corruption and betrayal have been rife.

In what ways have promises made to you before the referendum vote not been implemented? What promises were actually made? Who made those promises?

Since Brexit was never defined in any way, shape or form - how could it be implemented or not?

We were told that we would remain in Single Market and Customs Union, even!

I think we've done pretty well to overcome some of the hurdles which inevitably came our way due to Brexit.

I realise that you'll probably refuse to answer this, escaped, but what hurdles have we overcome?