Shadow Cabinet Reshuffle

Thx Lizzie, nice quote from Maguire in the Mirror, but I suggest you check the circulation figures, as it will make the tiniest blip on the electorate, folk buying the Mirror are ALREADY convinced Labour supporters! It's like a piece in the Telegraph or Distress detailing Badenoch's good points (if there are some), preaching to the converted?!

It's NOT the fault of the rest of us that Starmer's crew have committed massive, significant own goals, with winter heating, benefits, and the utter shambles re immigration, having rightly criticised the Tory shambles and claiming they could instantly fix the problem (a la Trumpist blustering), this year's Channel crossings are at an all-time high!

The folk criticising the BBC - for occasionally quoting Farage - and claiming it's all a Right-wing plot to promote him - seem to have conveniently forgotten that BoJo's assorted blunderings got lots of coverage and helped turn the electorate against Tories?

And they're perfectly entitled to report on Labour backflips and U-Turns, they showed far more Tory ones over the 14 years?!

Sure, Farage should be exposed for the opportunist fraud that he is, so, the other 2 main parties need to expose him - they ARE fulltime politicos, aren't they?!!!

Oh, and those bemoaning the lack of coverage for LibDems and Greens, DO PLEASE GET REAL?! Ed Davey seems a nice chap, but pops up once every month or two to make a quiet suggestion, they should know from their election strategy that they NEED TO GET OUT and MAKE NOISE?

Greens? Who are they, where are they? Hardly anyone knows, and the vast majority see them as linked to the Just Stop Oil barmy fringe, a few councillors wearing sandals and trying to get us all to get our big s'market shop on a bicycle. Good luck with that!

MrsMatt

Personally I think Cabinet Shuffles are ridiculous. Why would you keep moving people around within a 'Company' every few months. If 'Fred' is a whiz in Education then keep him there. If 'Sarah' is awesome with finances [Chancellor of the Exchequer] then why move her to Health, which she knows nothing about.

I will never understand it.

I agree, but often the shuffle moves and peas with no experience in one area to other places where they have no experience in either. I suppose it helps them gain a variety of experiences that will eventually be useful.
Let’s not forget that they only shuffle the MPs not the Civil Servants who support the MPs.

Personally I think Cabinet Shuffles are ridiculous. Why would you keep moving people around within a 'Company' every few months. If 'Fred' is a whiz in Education then keep him there. If 'Sarah' is awesome with finances [Chancellor of the Exchequer] then why move her to Health, which she knows nothing about.

I will never understand it.

Galaxy

We arent going to agree on this casdon. They are about as wrong on populism as it is possible to be.

Out of interest do you think they are wrong on AI? I am still trying to get to grips with the long term implications, but I found the podcast helpful.

Galaxy

We arent going to agree on this casdon. They are about as wrong on populism as it is possible to be.

Or you are? We’ve all got different opinions about everything, and dismissing opinions different to our own is not recognising they may be valid, as you keep telling us?

LizzieDrip

Dorisdodar

LizzieDrip...I disagree... people in the area I live are very concerned about immigration.

Are they concerned because of actual incidents of immigrants causing trouble etc?

Or are they concerned because the media makes them believe they ‘should’ be concerned?

Obviously I can’t speak for your area. However, in my small working class town in North West England we have a lot of immigrants. There is also a hotel housing asylum seekers nearby.

We’ve had no problems caused by either group. In fact the immigrants have opened a diverse range of small food stores which add greatly to the area. No-one is ‘concerned’ - just the opposite.

OFGS Lizziedrip. People don't need to be told by the media to be concerned about the huge influx of mostly undocumented young men arriving on our shores. Especially when they are being housed in hotels next to their children's schools, or hanging around bothering young women.

You probably have a relatively small hotel in your 'small working class town' housing only a few of these migrants, who you claim are behaving well. It doesn't mean that it is the same countrywide.

Lucky you, that in your town, 'no one is concerned - just the opposite'. Perhaps more of those arriving should be sent to the North West of England if you are all so welcoming. I think we have more than our share in the South East. We have our own opinions, not influenced by the media, and we are very concerned.

We arent going to agree on this casdon. They are about as wrong on populism as it is possible to be.

Nobody is always right as far as I’m aware? I wouldn’t condemn somebody for getting some things wrong, it doesn’t mean they aren’t often right. Right about populism, threats, education, corruption in politics….etc.

And of course with regard to AC, going even further back, a few errors with regard to Iraq. And I say that as a Blair supporter.

Are they? Wrong on Syria, constantly surprised by Brexit, surprised by Trump, and on and on.

what has happened to the ERG during this Badenoch debacle? Are they just waiting in the wings?

I suspect they win out on credibility because they are often proved correct in their assumptions though Galaxy. You don’t have to respect or agree with people to see the validity of their argument.

Yes I have listened to them, they are as out of touch as it is possible to be. My predictions are often wrong but I am a novice compared to those two.

Dorisdodar

LizzieDrip...I disagree... people in the area I live are very concerned about immigration.

Are they concerned because of actual incidents of immigrants causing trouble etc?

Or are they concerned because the media makes them believe they ‘should’ be concerned?

Obviously I can’t speak for your area. However, in my small working class town in North West England we have a lot of immigrants. There is also a hotel housing asylum seekers nearby.

We’ve had no problems caused by either group. In fact the immigrants have opened a diverse range of small food stores which add greatly to the area. No-one is ‘concerned’ - just the opposite.

Iam64

We have the best government we have had in many years

Iam64 inflation is up, unemployment is up, number of top tax payers leaving is up, NHS back to striking….. but we do have breakfast clubs?

LizzieDrip...I disagree... people in the area I live are very concerned about immigration.

Galaxy

Alistair Campbell or anyone similar would be a disaster, it is rare to listen to someone as out of touch as he is.

Have you listened to him and Rory Stewart on the Rest is Politics podcast? They know exactly what is going on.

Mollygo

^Maybe the media doesn't celebrate the achievements of the Labour government because they pale into insignificance against their number of failures and u-turns.^

They need to be more proactive in saying what they have done and if it is working. I used to wish there was an Ofsted for Parliament.
What’s happening now is just like Ofsted.
A school can have achieved a lot or improved in many areas that were highlighted as needing improvement, but Ofsted highlights things where they don’t think the school has achieved.

Welcome to the real world MPs.

Labour MPs have got to have more sense of reality, you can’t have more spending without more revenue. The taxes that increase revenue quickly are Income Tax and VAT both pledged to freeze. Capital taxation is much longer term and yields much less, if they can’t reduce spending the outlook is pretty bleak even if taxes are increased.

Maybe the media doesn't celebrate the achievements of the Labour government because they pale into insignificance against their number of failures and u-turns.

They need to be more proactive in saying what they have done and if it is working. I used to wish there was an Ofsted for Parliament.
What’s happening now is just like Ofsted.
A school can have achieved a lot or improved in many areas that were highlighted as needing improvement, but Ofsted highlights things where they don’t think the school has achieved.

Welcome to the real world MPs.

We have the best government we have had in many years

LizzieDrip

sundowngirl

I think the electorate is more concerned about all the errors and u-turns this government has made in the last year which are affecting their day to day lives, rather than its achievements.

Frequently when being interviewed, government ministers cite the 35,000 illegal immigrants that have been deported in the last year. We often see footage of those arriving on the small boats, if these numbers are correct, wouldn't it be a boost to the Government's credibility if these deportations were also shown on the news/social media. Is their PR team missing a trick?

Not everyone is as concerned about immigration as the media would have us believe.

Of course we see endless footage of small boats; of course people know more about so-called ‘u turns’ than achievements - that’s what the media pumps out. It’s part of the right wing media propaganda machine - main stream and social.

As I’ve said previously, the UK media will never celebrate the achievements of a Labour government. So, Labour need to take control of their own narrative!

I think you will find that more and more people are becoming concerned about immigration as the numbers grow at an alarming rate. It may not affect you yet, but it will if this government doesn't take action instead of tinkering around the edges.

Maybe the media doesn't celebrate the achievements of the Labour government because they pale into insignificance against their number of failures and u-turns

I’ve seen some effective advertising about the effect of economic decisions on different industries on YouTube recently, so I think it is starting to happen.

sundowngirl

I think the electorate is more concerned about all the errors and u-turns this government has made in the last year which are affecting their day to day lives, rather than its achievements.

Frequently when being interviewed, government ministers cite the 35,000 illegal immigrants that have been deported in the last year. We often see footage of those arriving on the small boats, if these numbers are correct, wouldn't it be a boost to the Government's credibility if these deportations were also shown on the news/social media. Is their PR team missing a trick?

Not everyone is as concerned about immigration as the media would have us believe.

Of course we see endless footage of small boats; of course people know more about so-called ‘u turns’ than achievements - that’s what the media pumps out. It’s part of the right wing media propaganda machine - main stream and social.

As I’ve said previously, the UK media will never celebrate the achievements of a Labour government. So, Labour need to take control of their own narrative!

Galaxy

Alistair Campbell or anyone similar would be a disaster, it is rare to listen to someone as out of touch as he is.

Have you listened to this weeks The Rest is Politics Galaxy? I thought the discussion about AI did not sound like someone who is out of touch?

Sorry, posted too soon, I mean Reform politicians, who you can find on google who have been implicated and/or convicted of a variety of offences.
My apolgies.