Breaking news Diss hotel refuses to take single men boat people

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When I hear what’s going on in Ireland. My town changing beyond all recognition. Yes it frightens me.
When I hear of sexual attacks I worry for young girls. That we fear walking around the woods nearby.
Not a world I want to live in GS

Oreo. I completely agree with you. It’s much easier to give them the right to remain (and thus reduce the backlog) than to try to deport them with all that entails and the human rights lawyers rubbing their greedy hands together

Ah well MT61. You're entitled to an opinion, but I'm quite happy to hang for another couple of decades - if I do! It's infinitely preferable to the alternative.

I must admit that I dislike the fact that people seem to be becoming ever more intolerant and fall for the agendas of those who would divide us. I do my best to live the life which satisfies me amongst people who reinforce that.

growstuff

Ah well MT61. You're entitled to an opinion, but I'm quite happy to hang for another couple of decades - if I do! It's infinitely preferable to the alternative.

I must admit that I dislike the fact that people seem to be becoming ever more intolerant and fall for the agendas of those who would divide us. I do my best to live the life which satisfies me amongst people who reinforce that.

Not everyone on here agrees with you.
GS

There seem to be some Daily Mail/Reform lies being parroted on this thread.

1. There is no other legal route to claim asylum other than the small boats.

2. Asylum seekers make up 10% of net migration.

3. Asylum seekers get £49.18 each week to help with food, toiletries, clothes and travel.

4. The government spent nearly a third less on hotels to house asylum seekers between April 2024 and March 2025, according to newly published figures (BBC News)

5. Essex police were busing protestors because they were at risk - it was the far right thugs who were the ones being violent ...

Primrose53

sassenach512

How many people have been waiting years for social housing in this country? They live in B&Bs, disgusting private accommodation running with mould, overcrowding relative's homes, many living on the streets yet the government are thinking of using empty properties for migrants to use?
What the hell is this country coming to? No doubt these long empty houses will be refurbished and made brand spanking new with new kitchens and bathrooms etc for these people to live comfortably in at great expense. When are we going to put our own people first?
We don't know who these, mostly, young men are, what they've done in their own countries or what they bring into our country.
We've had multiple cases of foreign looking men sitting around our beach front trying to chat up young girls out enjoying the beach. One said he was the young girl's brother when someone challenged him, which certainly was not the case, he was chased off by locals.
We're going to get lots more of this till we stop being the soft touch of Europe and make the UK undesirable to come here. I doubt the French are giving out £50 top ups for 'essentials' each week

I helped a young, local couple to get social housing. It took 4 years to get something which was a flat. I have heard of people waiting 10 years.

Starmer reckons there is plenty of empty accommodation but when asked he couldn’t say WHERE. He is living in cloud cuckoo land if he believes what he says.

There is no way locals around here will accept illegal immigrants being housed before them. It is very wrong to even consider doing so.

People in this country illegally and asylum seekers don’t qualify for council/social housing. We just don’t build enough social housing to replace the housing lost to Right to Buy.
Interesting article from the Chartered Institute of Housing:
Dispelling myths about migrants and housing

Migrants are often blamed for housing shortages, but the truth is they stand less of a chance of getting social housing than people born in the UK. This blog details some of the common claims we hear about migrants’ housing rights that are untrue or only partially true, to dispel the myths with facts.

People with local connections receive housing before migrants

New migrants arriving in the UK aren’t eligible for social housing except in very limited circumstances (e.g. a spouse forced to leave home because of domestic violence). Most people who come to the UK on visas to work or study have ‘no recourse to public funds’ and can’t receive benefits or get help with their housing. In any case, many councils now have ‘local connection’ rules which favour longstanding residents in their allocations policies, rather than newcomers such as migrants. So migrants generally have much less ‘right’ to a social home than people born in the UK, and often have far less chance of getting one even if they eventually become eligible.

The housing crisis is due to a lack of new homes being built, not due to rising migration

Of course, migration adds to housing demand. Net migration (numbers arriving minus numbers leaving) peaked in 2022 at 764,000. However, this was an unusual period, with travel recovering after the pandemic, more people with work visas and international students arriving, and exceptional numbers of refugees being welcomed to the UK from Hong Kong and Ukraine.

Since the peak in 2022, net migration has fallen and the Office of National Statistics projects it to level out at around 315,000 per year from 2028. The UK population is projected to reach 70 million by mid-2026 and, without migration, growth would be much slower. However, the gap between housing supply and demand is so big that even if migration stopped completely, new house building would still fall well short of what’s required.

There’s no straightforward link between migration and housing demand

The extent to which population growth affects housing demand depends on the economy – separate households only form when they can afford to, otherwise people share, live with parents etc. Also, practically all recent migrants either use the private rented sector or use tied accommodation (farm workers, hospitality workers), student residences or share with others. This means they have much less impact on housing demand than their numbers suggest.

Migrants have very few rights and access to support when they arrive

A previous home secretary claimed that migrants without permission to stay can still ‘access everything they need’. But migrants now face document checks in England before they get tenancies. The same applies when they use the NHS, they go for a job or open a bank account. Migrants trying to regularise their documents must overcome formidable legal obstacles and pay massive fees. This so-called ‘hostile environment’ aims to deter undocumented migrants, but it in practice it affects all migrants and even British citizens such as those who don’t have passports, as we saw with the ‘Windrush’ scandal when thousands of people who had lived here most of their lives, lost jobs, their homes, and their benefits.

Asylum seekers aren’t eligible for council housing

People who apply for asylum get very limited help from the state. If they are ‘destitute’ they get free accommodation, now provided by private companies like Serco and normally in older properties leased from landlords. They get just £49 per week to pay for food and all their expenses.

In March 2024, about one-third of asylum seekers were in hotels, but this number is declining. They only get £8 per week for living expenses.

Asylum seekers can’t get council housing nor are most allowed to work (except in a small number of cases).

Asylum seekers who are eventually accepted as refugees are eligible for social housing, but few succeed in getting it because they have a maximum of 28 days to leave their asylum accommodation and arrange all their paperwork. They are given five years permission to stay in the UK and often are (wrongly) discriminated against because they only have limited, not indefinite, leave to remain.

Only the small numbers of refugees who come direct to the UK on special schemes (like those evacuated from Afghanistan) might get social housing – and even then, they may spend long periods in temporary accommodation beforehand.

Migrants contribute more to taxes than they use in public services

The Migration Observatory has collated all the evidence on whether migrants pay more in taxes than they receive in services, and almost every study shows that they do. An important factor to bear in mind is that new house building, care services and many other parts of the economy depend heavily on migrant workers. Tougher migration policies might make it more difficult to solve Britain’s housing problems, not less.

And despite the growth in the percentage of people in the UK who were born abroad, foreign nationals still account for only 10% of new lettings made by social landlords. Of course, the percentage is higher in places where more migrants live, but the overall picture is that nine out of ten new lettings go to British nationals.

Don’t fall for the myths, use the CIH housing rights website and sign up for our quarterly bulletins to stay up to date.

Allira

5*?

The hotels being used for asylum seekers are hardly five star! For example, if you look up the ratings for the hotel in Epping before it had a contract to take asylum seekers, the average ratings were 2*. There were many comments about how it was dirty and neglected.

Back to the op ... the hotel in Diss has had a contract for some time time to take homeless families. The issue is that the Home Office has hinted that it wants to use the hotel for single asylum seekers (not confirmed). The owners quite rightly make the case that many of the people staying there are single mothers with children and it would be asking for trouble to have single males (of any nationality) on site.

I doubt very much if it has ever been a luxury hotel. Councils don't put homeless people in five star hotels.

Secondly, much of this is rumour. The hotel has a contract with the Home Office for families. If the Home Office wants to break that contract, the hotel could defend itself in court. It doesn't need a load of heavies to protest outside the hotel and potentially spark a riot.

Thank you for taking the time to post that HappilyRetired.

mrsmeldrew

There seem to be some Daily Mail/Reform lies being parroted on this thread.

1. There is no other legal route to claim asylum other than the small boats.

2. Asylum seekers make up 10% of net migration.

3. Asylum seekers get £49.18 each week to help with food, toiletries, clothes and travel.

4. The government spent nearly a third less on hotels to house asylum seekers between April 2024 and March 2025, according to newly published figures (BBC News)

5. Essex police were busing protestors because they were at risk - it was the far right thugs who were the ones being violent ...

I don’t read any newspapers or follow reform, I do however watch YouTube & can see with my eyes what is going on.
MSM doesn’t always report what is going on.

The latest NAO Report dated May 2025:

www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/home-offices-asylum-accommodation-contracts-summary.pdf

These ever increasing costs are frightening given the UK’s present economic position.

I hate to break the news Mt61, but YouTube is hardly an unbiassed source of information. It's largely unregulated and just about anybody can use it as a propaganda tool.

PS. You'd probably be better informed if you read/watched a range of regulated MSM sources with different viewpoints. If two sources with known opposing viewpoints report something differently, you (as a rational human being) can decide which is likely to be most true.

YouTube and some of the internet in general has become a rabbit warren of conspiracy theories and propaganda. I'm afraid some people have disappeared in the maze of tunnels and are only exposed to the myths.

RinseAndRepeat

The latest NAO Report dated May 2025:

www.nao.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/home-offices-asylum-accommodation-contracts-summary.pdf

These ever increasing costs are frightening given the UK’s present economic position.

Some landlords and hotel owners are making a fortune! It's not all doom and gloom.

petra

escaped

Thank you for using statistical evidence to support the facts. This is needed now more than ever.
But the statistics given are not those on the gov uk website MissRedd.

Just under half (49%) of claims which received an initial decision in the year ending March 2025 were granted.) Not 75%.

And what then happened to the other 50%?

and then what happened to the other 50%
Your car washes.
Numerous restaurants.
Looking after those pretty plants.
Delivering your drug of choice.
Delivering take away meals.
Night time cleaning.
Then we have the nasty bastards who keep the working girls in check.

You forgot the Turkish barber shops that keep springing up locally!

growstuff

I hate to break the news Mt61, but YouTube is hardly an unbiassed source of information. It's largely unregulated and just about anybody can use it as a propaganda tool.

PS. You'd probably be better informed if you read/watched a range of regulated MSM sources with different viewpoints. If two sources with known opposing viewpoints report something differently, you (as a rational human being) can decide which is likely to be most true.

YouTube and some of the internet in general has become a rabbit warren of conspiracy theories and propaganda. I'm afraid some people have disappeared in the maze of tunnels and are only exposed to the myths.

I hate to break it to you, the MSM aren’t always transparent either, if you believe that, then you are deluding yourself also.

Amazing Greece have said if you arrive here illegally the choice is yours, go home or go to prison. Yet they are in the EU and still in the EHRC. How come we still do nothing??? We are not in the EU anymore. Labour must go. We can not survive another 4 years of them.

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EU countries are taking stronger measures than us…

love0c

Amazing Greece have said if you arrive here illegally the choice is yours, go home or go to prison. Yet they are in the EU and still in the EHRC. How come we still do nothing??? We are not in the EU anymore. Labour must go. We can not survive another 4 years of them.

I sincerely hope I will do so love0c, and as they will be here for the next four years, please don’t expire.

love0c

Amazing Greece have said if you arrive here illegally the choice is yours, go home or go to prison. Yet they are in the EU and still in the EHRC. How come we still do nothing??? We are not in the EU anymore. Labour must go. We can not survive another 4 years of them.

People do not arrive illegally. They have the right to seek asylum in any country they choose. The only time "illegal" should be used is if people are fused asylum and/or overstay visas.

love0c You seem a tad confused. The EHRC has never had anything to do with the EU. The UK's membership of the EU is irrelevant in that context.

The UK isn't doing nothing. Just thank your lucky starts you don't live in an entry country like Greece or Italy.

Hope this helps with the legal versus illegal entry into UK …

GrannyGravy13

Hope this helps with the legal versus illegal entry into UK …

Yep! People who don't see an immigration officer - in other words, people who don't claim asylum! There's a difference between landing in a boat and immediately claiming asylum, which is perfectly legal under international law, and landing on a beach in the middle of the night and disappearing.

Asylum seekers are not acting illegally!

If they are seeking asylum they should claim it in France which is a safe country.

Those who are calling people objecting “ far right” and “racists” should have been in Diss and seen the local Mums who just want their children to be safe. They are just ordinary parents who care.

In fact by calling people these names they are making ordinary people even more determined to have their say and join the protests.

They just don’t want undocumented single young men being housed in their small town and near to their schools.

Primrose53

Those who are calling people objecting “ far right” and “racists” should have been in Diss and seen the local Mums who just want their children to be safe. They are just ordinary parents who care.

In fact by calling people these names they are making ordinary people even more determined to have their say and join the protests.

They just don’t want undocumented single young men being housed in their small town and near to their schools.

Great example to their children. Showing it’s ok to threaten people and attack the police.

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