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Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4

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Magenta8 Fri 25-Jul-25 11:08:56

It is very difficult to understand what is really happening and what are lies being perpetrated by Israel or Hamas. Add to this reporting restrictions and it is surprising we know as much as we do.

Anniebach Fri 01-Aug-25 00:03:38

Quote Oreo Thu 31-Jul-25 23:58:00
Anniebach
Whitewave knew what “targeting posters “ meant

Actually it turns out that she didn’t 😁

I still don’t know what it meant

Wyllow3 Fri 01-Aug-25 00:05:31

Oreo

Wyllow3

Yes Allira it was simply garbled in the circs.

Mountains being made out of molehills here.

And I keep on trying to get those of us who feel strongly to actually do something, instead of getting petty on a hurried post

Nothing petty about wanting posters names to target, but glad you cleared up a mystery as it sounded a bit sinister tbh.

It did, didn't it, Oreo.

It was actually slang, bad grammar, to say "us posters" instead of "we posters", but common in the North of England.

Just to be clear, I was suggesting "targeting" people of some influence, to encourage them to speak out, and asking posters if they had names to put forward.

^It's been my intention, as well as of course talking over the issues on this thread, to get people to do something as well as talk over issues.

And that intention surely has been clear all along?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Aug-25 07:09:45

The BBC has an article in its news feed detailing in depth the killing of children by the IDF. It has commentary and analysis by experts in the field.

It is sad, upsetting and graphic.

This evidence I am sure will be used in war crimes.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Aug-25 07:15:10

Good to see Palestinian children beginning to arrive in the U.K. for treatment.

One 15 year old has arrived for facial reconstruction, when a targeted bullet shattered his jaw. Surgeons at GOS are hopeful that they can give him a working jaw.

Does anyone know which charity is funding these children please?

Anniebach Fri 01-Aug-25 07:26:11

But with his injured mouth covered by a surgical mask, his eyes were beaming as he arrived at London's Heathrow airport on a flight from Cairo, with his mother, brother and little sister.
"I'm happy to be in England and to get treatment," the 15-year-old told me.
He was trying to get humanitarian aid in the Kuwaiti area of northern Gaza in February last year when an Israeli tank shell exploded nearby, shattering his jaw bone and injuring his leg.
"One of my friends helped me and took me to the hospital," he says. "They thought I was dead. I had to move my hand to show them that I was alive."
Doctors in Gaza saved his life and Majd spent months in hospital, breathing through a tracheostomy tube, before he was evacuated to Egypt in February this year - with Israel's permission - for further medical treatment.
Now he's in the UK for surgery at Great Ormond Street children's hospital in London to restore the function of his face.
He is the first Gazan child to arrive in the UK for treatment for war injuries, almost two years into a conflict in which more than 50,000 children have reportedly been killed or injured, according to the UN children's charity, Unicef, external.

TheatreLover Fri 01-Aug-25 07:46:07

Whitewavemark2

Good to see Palestinian children beginning to arrive in the U.K. for treatment.

One 15 year old has arrived for facial reconstruction, when a targeted bullet shattered his jaw. Surgeons at GOS are hopeful that they can give him a working jaw.

Does anyone know which charity is funding these children please?

The charity is Project Pure Hope (PPH) which is a humanitarian apolitical coalition of healthcare workers and lawyers who are working with specialist hospitals in the UK to provide privately funded care for a small number of children affected by the conflict in the Middle East. PPH has been approved by the UK government to evacuate children from Gaza for medical treatment. There is an article in Garden Court Chambers about this.

Iam64 Fri 01-Aug-25 07:51:26

Good to read about this 15 year old arriving for treatment at Gt Ormand Street hospital. Good that his mother is with him.

FWIW I had no difficulty understanding Wyllow’s suggestion we share information on the most effective way to contact, I’d target, people who may be influential.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Aug-25 07:57:52

I give to unicef monthly, but I am assuming that this is a charity set up for the children with war injuries in Gaza? But really any child with any war injury would get my mite.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Aug-25 07:58:50

TheatreLover

Whitewavemark2

Good to see Palestinian children beginning to arrive in the U.K. for treatment.

One 15 year old has arrived for facial reconstruction, when a targeted bullet shattered his jaw. Surgeons at GOS are hopeful that they can give him a working jaw.

Does anyone know which charity is funding these children please?

The charity is Project Pure Hope (PPH) which is a humanitarian apolitical coalition of healthcare workers and lawyers who are working with specialist hospitals in the UK to provide privately funded care for a small number of children affected by the conflict in the Middle East. PPH has been approved by the UK government to evacuate children from Gaza for medical treatment. There is an article in Garden Court Chambers about this.

Thank you will - try to get that sorted today.

Wyllow3 Fri 01-Aug-25 09:37:52

What a good idea, we can share who we can donate to.

I've always supported Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors without Borders) their reputation has never been in question.

But you Can donate to them specifically for Gaza.

this is their general website
www.msf.org

MSF has specific appeals for Gaza, the "Gaza Emergency Regional Fund". I cant find how to specifically to this on the website, but you can ring and do it

Call MSF UK on +44 (0) 20 7404 6600 and ask for the Supporter Care Team.
or write to [email protected] and ask how to directly donate to Gaza

The Red Cross is equally well known and respected, here's how to donate directly to their work on Gaza
tinyurl.com/2szxw5w6

Wyllow3 Fri 01-Aug-25 09:40:35

and UNRWA
donate.unrwa.org/int/en/gaza

Wyllow3 Fri 01-Aug-25 17:06:59

I've been out so just had the opportunity and found the relevant charity, to donate to, for Protecting Our Jewish Community

cst.org.uk

Full description and donate button.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Aug-25 08:18:43

Thanks wyllow3

All on board. I always - and have done for years- give as much as I can to children’s charities, so that will be my choice.

My heart aches as I think of the mothers in Gaza.

When something horrible happens to me I always instinctively think of something that could be worse.

Twenty years ago the oncologist told me gently that I had breast cancer, my reply through my tears was “well it could be worse, I could be watching my children starving to death”

That is the worse horror imaginable.

silverlining48 Sat 02-Aug-25 11:23:06

I have always donated to MSF who do a lot of good work among those who need medical help in time of war and famine.

Wyllow3 Sat 02-Aug-25 14:06:55

Me too, and Water Aid

Water Aid do work in Palestine and always have.

Donate to Water Aid

www.wateraid.org/uk/donate?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19688239913&gbraid=0AAAAADwbITmAKNrdyOrCOq3pZQznc_12d

Wyllow3 Sat 02-Aug-25 21:33:59

How to donate to the Red Cross Gaza Fund directly

donate.redcross.org.uk/appeal/gaza-crisis-appeal?spm=Regular+Giving&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21455631486&gbraid=0AAAAAD_j2cD3abtRivW08WOMGyP28_Kk-&gclid=CjwKCAjw7rbEBhB5EiwA1V49nUDSBv_4VWmgBxpSgYLXJHWNtu63dLnxePJrewwqixkeSZlf2YdNQxoClp4QAvD_BwE

Allira Sat 02-Aug-25 22:13:46

An Israeli hostage shown emaciated on BBC News this evening.

If Israel is using starvation as a weapon against Gaza, what do they expect will happen to the hostages if there is little food available?

Anniebach Sun 03-Aug-25 10:09:42

Quote Allira Sat 02-Aug-25 22:13:46
An Israeli hostage shown emaciated on BBC News this evening.

If Israel is using starvation as a weapon against Gaza, what do they expect will happen to the hostages if there is little food available?

The crowds collecting food do not look emaciated

silverlining48 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:13:58

It’s surely obvious to most, those who are sick are too ill to get out.

Anniebach Sun 03-Aug-25 10:33:51

Quote silverlining48 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:13:58
It’s surely obvious to most, those who are sick are too ill to get out.

When they are all being starved to death

Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:41:34

Anniebach

Quote silverlining48 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:13:58
It’s surely obvious to most, those who are sick are too ill to get out.

When they are all being starved to death

The IDF continues to target those queueing for food.

20 killed so far today.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:43:22

So welcoming to read that we are expecting hundreds of Palestinian children who need critical health care. They are to be taken under the wing of the NHS

Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:45:14

36 trucked entered Gaza with aid yesterday.

That is at least 464 trucks short of what is needed.

Starvation will never be defeated if the Israelis continue along this road.

Is it deliberate?

Anniebach Sun 03-Aug-25 11:15:42

Quote Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:45:14
36 trucked entered Gaza with aid yesterday.

That is at least 464 trucks short of what is needed.

Starvation will never be defeated if the Israelis continue along this road.

Is it deliberate?

Is it true ? Suppose it is if one believes Hamas Health Ministry

Eloethan Sun 03-Aug-25 11:33:16

For goodness sake anniebach - British and other European doctors are giving accounts of the starvation and the terrible injuries. Are you saying they are all lying?

As has been said many times before, why does Israel not allow any journalists into Gaza if they feel Hamas is misrepresenting the facts and is exaggerating the claims of starvation? Even "embedded" journalists would be better than none at all.