Israel blame Hamas for the looting from the lorries. Believable.
Hamas blame the IDF for stirring people into a frenzy so that the deliveries fail to get through. Believable too.
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Israel Committing War Crimes - Israel - Gaza Part 4
(705 Posts)It is very difficult to understand what is really happening and what are lies being perpetrated by Israel or Hamas. Add to this reporting restrictions and it is surprising we know as much as we do.
Anniebach
Quote Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:45:14
36 trucked entered Gaza with aid yesterday.
That is at least 464 trucks short of what is needed.
Starvation will never be defeated if the Israelis continue along this road.
Is it deliberate?
Is it true ? Suppose it is if one believes Hamas Health Ministry
At this stage, I'd say that repeated, constant genocide denial is as bad as holocaust denial, truly. And sickening.
People are eating grass if they can find any, why are you surprised that some Lorries are looted by desperate people who presumably have families to try to feed.
In Germany in WW2 British soldiers walked round my mother’s town with small packets of food which were only given in exchange for sex with very hungry girls and young women.
Other girls were raped anyway, both my aunts in fact, but that was by Russians. War is a catastrophic thing and people, usually the victors, can and do terrible things. Things they presumably would not do in more normal times but with power brings shocking behaviour and were that ever to happen here it would be the exactly same.
Over 100 lorries of aid sent in a couple of days ago were grounded and looted in Gaza just ten mins into their journey.
For goodness sake anniebach - British and other European doctors are giving accounts of the starvation and the terrible injuries. Are you saying they are all lying?
As has been said many times before, why does Israel not allow any journalists into Gaza if they feel Hamas is misrepresenting the facts and is exaggerating the claims of starvation? Even "embedded" journalists would be better than none at all.
Quote Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:45:14
36 trucked entered Gaza with aid yesterday.
That is at least 464 trucks short of what is needed.
Starvation will never be defeated if the Israelis continue along this road.
Is it deliberate?
Is it true ? Suppose it is if one believes Hamas Health Ministry
36 trucked entered Gaza with aid yesterday.
That is at least 464 trucks short of what is needed.
Starvation will never be defeated if the Israelis continue along this road.
Is it deliberate?
So welcoming to read that we are expecting hundreds of Palestinian children who need critical health care. They are to be taken under the wing of the NHS
Anniebach
Quote silverlining48 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:13:58
It’s surely obvious to most, those who are sick are too ill to get out.
When they are all being starved to death
The IDF continues to target those queueing for food.
20 killed so far today.
Quote silverlining48 Sun 03-Aug-25 10:13:58
It’s surely obvious to most, those who are sick are too ill to get out.
When they are all being starved to death
It’s surely obvious to most, those who are sick are too ill to get out.
Quote Allira Sat 02-Aug-25 22:13:46
An Israeli hostage shown emaciated on BBC News this evening.
If Israel is using starvation as a weapon against Gaza, what do they expect will happen to the hostages if there is little food available?
The crowds collecting food do not look emaciated
An Israeli hostage shown emaciated on BBC News this evening.
If Israel is using starvation as a weapon against Gaza, what do they expect will happen to the hostages if there is little food available?
Me too, and Water Aid
Water Aid do work in Palestine and always have.
Donate to Water Aid
www.wateraid.org/uk/donate?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19688239913&gbraid=0AAAAADwbITmAKNrdyOrCOq3pZQznc_12d
I have always donated to MSF who do a lot of good work among those who need medical help in time of war and famine.
Thanks wyllow3
All on board. I always - and have done for years- give as much as I can to children’s charities, so that will be my choice.
My heart aches as I think of the mothers in Gaza.
When something horrible happens to me I always instinctively think of something that could be worse.
Twenty years ago the oncologist told me gently that I had breast cancer, my reply through my tears was “well it could be worse, I could be watching my children starving to death”
That is the worse horror imaginable.
I've been out so just had the opportunity and found the relevant charity, to donate to, for Protecting Our Jewish Community
cst.org.uk
Full description and donate button.
and UNRWA
donate.unrwa.org/int/en/gaza
What a good idea, we can share who we can donate to.
I've always supported Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors without Borders) their reputation has never been in question.
But you Can donate to them specifically for Gaza.
this is their general website
www.msf.org
MSF has specific appeals for Gaza, the "Gaza Emergency Regional Fund". I cant find how to specifically to this on the website, but you can ring and do it
Call MSF UK on +44 (0) 20 7404 6600 and ask for the Supporter Care Team.
or write to [email protected] and ask how to directly donate to Gaza
The Red Cross is equally well known and respected, here's how to donate directly to their work on Gaza
tinyurl.com/2szxw5w6
TheatreLover
Whitewavemark2
Good to see Palestinian children beginning to arrive in the U.K. for treatment.
One 15 year old has arrived for facial reconstruction, when a targeted bullet shattered his jaw. Surgeons at GOS are hopeful that they can give him a working jaw.
Does anyone know which charity is funding these children please?The charity is Project Pure Hope (PPH) which is a humanitarian apolitical coalition of healthcare workers and lawyers who are working with specialist hospitals in the UK to provide privately funded care for a small number of children affected by the conflict in the Middle East. PPH has been approved by the UK government to evacuate children from Gaza for medical treatment. There is an article in Garden Court Chambers about this.
Thank you will - try to get that sorted today.
I give to unicef monthly, but I am assuming that this is a charity set up for the children with war injuries in Gaza? But really any child with any war injury would get my mite.
Good to read about this 15 year old arriving for treatment at Gt Ormand Street hospital. Good that his mother is with him.
FWIW I had no difficulty understanding Wyllow’s suggestion we share information on the most effective way to contact, I’d target, people who may be influential.
Whitewavemark2
Good to see Palestinian children beginning to arrive in the U.K. for treatment.
One 15 year old has arrived for facial reconstruction, when a targeted bullet shattered his jaw. Surgeons at GOS are hopeful that they can give him a working jaw.
Does anyone know which charity is funding these children please?
The charity is Project Pure Hope (PPH) which is a humanitarian apolitical coalition of healthcare workers and lawyers who are working with specialist hospitals in the UK to provide privately funded care for a small number of children affected by the conflict in the Middle East. PPH has been approved by the UK government to evacuate children from Gaza for medical treatment. There is an article in Garden Court Chambers about this.
But with his injured mouth covered by a surgical mask, his eyes were beaming as he arrived at London's Heathrow airport on a flight from Cairo, with his mother, brother and little sister.
"I'm happy to be in England and to get treatment," the 15-year-old told me.
He was trying to get humanitarian aid in the Kuwaiti area of northern Gaza in February last year when an Israeli tank shell exploded nearby, shattering his jaw bone and injuring his leg.
"One of my friends helped me and took me to the hospital," he says. "They thought I was dead. I had to move my hand to show them that I was alive."
Doctors in Gaza saved his life and Majd spent months in hospital, breathing through a tracheostomy tube, before he was evacuated to Egypt in February this year - with Israel's permission - for further medical treatment.
Now he's in the UK for surgery at Great Ormond Street children's hospital in London to restore the function of his face.
He is the first Gazan child to arrive in the UK for treatment for war injuries, almost two years into a conflict in which more than 50,000 children have reportedly been killed or injured, according to the UN children's charity, Unicef, external.
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