So what do GNs think of Starmer’s decision to recognise Palestine as a state?

ronib

I think it was more that the British didn’t know how to reconcile competing and irreconcilable demands. Not sure that gross unfairness was actually mentioned in Hansard . wwm2

Point taken

Whitewavemark2

ronib

I think it was more that the British didn’t know how to reconcile competing and irreconcilable demands. Not sure that gross unfairness was actually mentioned in Hansard . wwm2

Point taken

I’m posting from my head not Hansard😄😄

Respectfully this is a very serious and distressing subject and making it as you go along is disrespectful to the many who have died.

ronib

Respectfully this is a very serious and distressing subject and making it as you go along is disrespectful to the many who have died.

Don’t be silly ronib

The British abstained from the UN vote. After the Parliamentary debate there was a subsequent Cabinet Meeting which discussed the issues and dates of withdrawal.
It is interesting to think about it in the context of the Partition of India within a short time frame.

Yes!

I think that the fairest thing you could say about Attlee and the government was that they were exhausted after the war.

Whitewavemark2

Yes!

I think that the fairest thing you could say about Attlee and the government was that they were exhausted after the war.

Yes and huge problems and challenges on the domestic front.

Mind you abrogating responsibility 😡

From BBB on line
Thousands of protesters have taken to the streets across Israel to oppose the government's newly announced plan to expand its military operation in the Gaza Strip
Protesters, including family members of 50 hostages in Gaza - 20 of whom are still thought to be alive - fear the plan puts the lives of hostages at risk, and urged the government to secure their release
Israeli leaders have rejected criticism of their plan, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying "this will help free our hostages"
*A group representing families of the hostages said on X: "Expanding the fighting endangers the hostages and the soldiers - the people of Israel are not willing to risk them!"
Among the protesters in Jerusalem was former soldier Max Kresch who said he is now refusing to serve*
"We're over 350 soldiers who served during the war and we're refusing to continue to serve in Netanyahu's political war that endangers the hostages (and) starving innocent Palestinians in Gaza," he said
Israeli leaders have rejected criticism of their plan, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu saying "this will help free our hostages"

BBC

Netanyahu isn't listening to his own people. Following his own brutal agenda and risking the lives of the hostages who have suffered enough.

No demands from the countries which support Palestine to
free the hostages , they are forgotten

stoneofdestiny can you give the web ref for the BBC article to make it easy for people to access. Thanks.
Am on mobile so can’t do it ATM.

I’ve got it on my BBC news app.

Free of course

Looks like Netanyahu's forgotten them too Annie.

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 10-Aug-25 17:35:43
Looks like Netanyahu's forgotten them too Annie.

He has spoken of them and with the fears in Israel I am certainly quite sure he hasn’t forgotten

Speaking of them is one thing, not putting them in further danger and trying to get them released is another thing entirely.

Quote Smileless2012 Sun 10-Aug-25 17:42:45
Speaking of them is one thing, not putting them in further danger and trying to get them released is another thing entirely.

You know more than I

No Anniebach no one knows much at all. It’s all made up. Sheer conjecture of the highest order.

UN emergency session called by U.K., France, Denmark, Greece and Slovenia over Israeli plans.

Quote Whitewavemark2 Sun 10-Aug-25 18:46:30
UN emergency session called by U.K., France, Denmark, Greece and Slovenia over Israeli plans.

Rather obvious move surely

Whitewavemark2

UN emergency session called by U.K., France, Denmark, Greece and Slovenia over Israeli plans.

That's good, when is it due, tomorrow I hope?

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Fair enough. Just to say that it has changed my appreciation of the situation the poster is in.

The IDF have assassinated 5 journalists in a targeted attack, they explained it away as they were actually targeting a Hamas terrorist. As there is no independent journalist to verify this - I think this should be taken with a pinch of salt, as it is clear now that lies are being told by Netanyahu and his cohorts.

They sure don’t want the world to know the truth do they!

Netanyahu is getting his ducks in line before he commits the worst atrocity since WW11.

He simply can’t afford to have a single journalist in Gaza who will report the horror that he intends committing.