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Trump and deployment of nuclear submarines

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 01-Aug-25 18:41:44

I’m ignoring it. I’m sure it is anything except Epstein.

I bet the Russians feel the same.

Jaxjacky Fri 01-Aug-25 18:59:14

Good shout WWm2 I read it too.

Smileless2012 Fri 01-Aug-25 20:10:36

I agree WWM but in addition, I think it's also because Putin has made a fool of him. There are many who knew that Putin's been playing games with Trump except Trump of course.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 01-Aug-25 20:35:53

Yes, I see this as more of the increasingly desperate attempts at deflection by Mr Trump.

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 20:51:23

I'm not sure why he would announce this?

Nuclear subs are in many places, aren't they?
We just don't know about it because no-one would normally announce it.

Nuclear submarine just means they are nuclear-powered. Are these armed with ballistic missiles?

imaround Fri 01-Aug-25 20:57:04

Nothing surprises me. Nothing. All we can do is hope it is one of his bluffs.

Unfortunately, the Epstein files don't seem to be going away and the efforts to distract so far has been unsuccessful.b

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 21:00:08

imaround

Nothing surprises me. Nothing. All we can do is hope it is one of his bluffs.

Unfortunately, the Epstein files don't seem to be going away and the efforts to distract so far has been unsuccessful.b

Well, I don't know why he would announce that.
He really is stupid.

Nuclear subs were probably in the vicinity anyway - did he say these were armed with missiles?

Allira Fri 01-Aug-25 21:01:38

Perhaps he doesn't realise that nuclear means nuclear-powered?

OldFrill Fri 01-Aug-25 23:32:09

As all US submarines are nuclear powered it's likely he means nuclear armed, though it's anyone's guess really but l don't think his intention is bluff.

Desdemona Fri 01-Aug-25 23:44:42

I have no comment other than to despair at the leaders of our countries right now.

windmill1 Sat 02-Aug-25 02:52:37

Yes, the Epstein business is the Albatross around Trumps neck and we now know he resorts to near-hysterical denial tactics as a distraction technique but "playing" with the nuclear option is much too far.

Is there absolutely no-one in American politics who can put a brake on him? Why does the US political system allow one man to act like some Supreme Dictator? Is there ANY political opposition in the American system, or is everyone terrified that this ogre can have them removed on a whim just for speaking up?

imaround Sat 02-Aug-25 04:03:27

Well, he fired the long time federal employee in charge of the jobs report after the worst report in 10 years. He accused her of falsifying numbers for political means.

No one is stopping him. He is a literal tyrant.

AGAA4 Sat 02-Aug-25 09:22:05

Russia is annoyed about Trump's ultimatums and has no intention of changing their ways for him.
They have made a threat now talking about 'dead hand' which means a nuclear strike on the USm
Trump needs to stop interfering in other nations who won't listen but he stands back on Gaza where he could have done some good

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Aug-25 09:30:11

It’s all good for Trump. Russia threatens so USA rallies around Trump and puts Epstein to one side.

Gaza offers a good amount of development business. He will allow Israel to clear it then offer to re-build as a vast price.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:35:33

Russia made threats about their nuclear capabilities to the US, a really really stupid thing for them to do.
That was in response to the tariffs and sanctions that the US is promising will happen in 12 days time.
I don’t agree that Trump needs to stop interfering and would bet my boots that Zelensky doesn’t want him to stop either.
Only the US can alter the outcome of Russia’s aggression into Ukraine.

AGAA4 Sat 02-Aug-25 09:36:14

I don't think the US will forget about Epstein. Trump has been threatened by China over tariffs.
This will die down and Epstein will be still there.
It just worries me that this mad man could cause a war eventually.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:38:14

Or he could stop them, as they are already happening.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:40:00

The US has the most military might in the world and can therefore choose who it supports and who it doesn’t.
Russia, as we have seen, really doesn’t, it botched things in Ukraine from the start.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 02-Aug-25 09:44:21

AGAA4

I don't think the US will forget about Epstein. Trump has been threatened by China over tariffs.
This will die down and Epstein will be still there.
It just worries me that this mad man could cause a war eventually.

I think that is a real worry tbh. What is it with these powerful men who will cause/continue with war to further their own ends.

How on earth did we end up with such evil monsters?

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:45:59

Trump doesn’t like wars, they interfere with business.

AGAA4 Sat 02-Aug-25 09:46:30

Oreo

The US has the most military might in the world and can therefore choose who it supports and who it doesn’t.
Russia, as we have seen, really doesn’t, it botched things in Ukraine from the start.

Russia have more nuclear weapons than the US.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 09:51:01

You either have nuclear capabilities which means you can reach other countries with them, or you can’t.
Russia wouldn’t dare touch the US or it would be obliterated itself moments later.
The world has observed that in a conventional war that Russia is hopeless.

fancythat Sat 02-Aug-25 10:00:42

I dont think the Epstein stuff will go away in our lifetimes.
It is all far too big and important.

Trump doesn’t like wars, they interfere with business.

Oh what a good point.
Though not sure about US arms sales.

Oreo Sat 02-Aug-25 10:00:43

I doubt this latest thing is anything to worry about, just the usual Russian bluster and Trump replying in kind to them.

Allira Sat 02-Aug-25 10:22:12

OldFrill

As all US submarines are nuclear powered it's likely he means nuclear armed, though it's anyone's guess really but l don't think his intention is bluff.

Yes, but how do we know what he means?
And perhaps he doesn't understand the difference 😯