Israel/Gaza War - Hundreds of Israeli ex-officials appeal to Trump to help end Gaza war

Anniebach

Israel was attacked by Palestinian Hamas , this is a fact

Yes and anyone would expect Israel to defend itself against such horror.

However, as part of the civilised western allies, Israel is signed up to the rules of engagement in times of warfare which includes proportionality.

They broke that rule on day 2.

Israel was attacked by Palestinian Hamas , this is a fact

Yet again, Hamas are dismissed Yet again, the horror that is happening in Gaza is dismissed.

Quote Smileless2012 Tue 09-Sept-25 14:29:25
Arms aren't being used for defence in Gaza Annie, they're being used for murder, maiming and total destruction and if we are supplying any in part and/or in entirety we are complicit.

Yet again, Hamas are dismissed

Arms aren't being used for defence in Gaza Annie, they're being used for murder, maiming and total destruction and if we are supplying any in part and/or in entirety we are complicit.

Arms are also for defence

If you aid and abet in killing then you are complicit you are indeed AGAA.

Quote AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 13:58:37
It's not just the UK. The US sends most arms to Israel. I think Germany have stopped sending arms now.
If you aid and abet in killing then you are complicit.

So, UK, US, Germany are complicit in the alleged starvation in Gaza , do tell what other countries

It's not just the UK. The US sends most arms to Israel. I think Germany have stopped sending arms now.
If you aid and abet in killing then you are complicit.

Yes I do think that the government is complicit of course I do!

Selling Israel fighter jets to be used in Gaza is in my opinion totally beyond the pale.

Anything our government does to aid Israel in its waring activities in Gaza is complicit in genocide and in particular the war against children.

Quote Whitewavemark2 Tue 09-Sept-25 13:36:29
Oreo
But it is nonsense to say that the UK is complicit , and it wasn’t a GN poster who said that it was, it was the MSF according to you.
I am much more prepared to listen and believe a well respect charity, that has been operating throughout the world for over half a century with all that experience under their belt than an individual poster, with zero experience.

You too believe the UK and UK government are complicit ? You stated it as fact

Oreo

But it is nonsense to say that the UK is complicit , and it wasn’t a GN poster who said that it was, it was the MSF according to you.

I am much more prepared to listen and believe a well respect charity, that has been operating throughout the world for over half a century with all that experience under their belt than an individual poster, with zero experience.

Quote AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 13:29:33
Oreo
But it is nonsense to say that the UK is complicit , and it wasn’t a GN poster who said that it was, it was the MSF according to you.
So you are saying that a well regarded organisation like the MSF whose British doctors are treating the Gazan people are talking nonsense.
I think they know more about the situation in Gaza than any of us and know which countries are standing by and letting the killing continue.

The MFS claim the UK and Uk government are complicit in the actions of Israel ?

Oreo

But it is nonsense to say that the UK is complicit , and it wasn’t a GN poster who said that it was, it was the MSF according to you.

So you are saying that a well regarded organisation like the MSF whose British doctors are treating the Gazan people are talking nonsense.
I think they know more about the situation in Gaza than any of us and know which countries are standing by and letting the killing continue.

Quote AGAA4 Tue 09-Sept-25 13:08:48
Oreo
The UK complicit? Nonsense.

Using that peremptory tone to dismiss everything that those you disagree with thinks is hardly in the spirit of Gransnet.

You claim genocide and agree the UK and its government are complicit in this ?

But it is nonsense to say that the UK is complicit , and it wasn’t a GN poster who said that it was, it was the MSF according to you.

Oreo

The UK complicit? Nonsense.

Using that peremptory tone to dismiss everything that those you disagree with thinks is hardly in the spirit of Gransnet.

Whitewavemark2

Nothing to do with the visit from the Israeli President then.😡

The government are digging their own grave.

People will never forgive them for playing politics with peoples lives.

Which people?
Here in the UK people ( apart from any anti semites of course) care more about the cost of living and anything that affects us here.

The UK complicit? Nonsense.

Whitewavemark2

Frankly the Government does not seem to be able recognise its arse from its elbow over this.

Because you don’t agree with them on the war in Gaza.I think the government knows more on this matter than you or me.

I believe MSF who are there in Gaza and are calling this genocide. They also say the UK is complicit in the crimes.
If most of those signings at the international court are Israelis then the vote will be extremely biased.

I am astounded 🙄 that the signatories are almost without exception Israeli!

Whitewave

Is being looked at in international court ?

You have stated it as true !

This is because it is being looked at in international court - so of course Israel is rallying its supporters. But you will find that the vast majority will come down on the side of genocide.

Nearly 200 genocide, Holocaust and legal scholars are calling on the International Association of Genocide Scholars to retract its resolution finding that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

In a letter finalised on Friday, the scholars charge the association with “critical errors” in its resolution, including failing to consider Hamas’ role in the deaths in Gaza and whether any explanation other than an intent to harm an entire group can explain the crisis there.