BBC - Violent Channel smuggling gang's French and UK network

That’s not a worry Oreo, the deal is specifically based on equal numbers, so it one for one.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Rwanda anyone? Bibby Stockholm (try again).
A convincing deterrent of SOME sort anyway. Please. Someone. Anyone.

Tell you what, ‘smash the gangs’ Yvette Cooper won’t get re-elected. I’d put good money on that outcome….

I thought you said you were a realist?

Casdon

That’s not a worry Oreo, the deal is specifically based on equal numbers, so it one for one.

In theory……

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

Delene100

My question, why are the French not manning points of entry into France. If they didn't let them in, there would be no migrants queuing up to get to the UK.

Good point.

Are you calling the BBC investigative team amateur sleuths just trying to raise their profile?

It never ceases to amaze me how much investigative journalists can discover when the authorities often fail to find out what is going on.

petra

escaped

So can anyone explain.....
Where are these boats being manufactured their hundreds? For every boat that gets across the channel, plus every boat that is punctured, there needs to be some jolly big outfit somewhere producing them.

The inflatables are made in China and come across the Turkish/Bulgaria border.
There has always been a lot of corruption there but a while ago a lorry full of the goods were intercepted.
A few border guards weren’t happy 😂

What happens to all these boats? Can they be recycled or are they adding to the piles of rubbish polluting this planet?

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Casdon

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Nasty.
I did actually say credit was given to BBC by PC.

Delene100

My question, why are the French not manning points of entry into France. If they didn't let them in, there would be no migrants queuing up to get to the UK.

france isn't an island, it has 1000 + miles of border anyone can walk across without needing people smugglers, dinghies, much navigational skill. But also without fisk of drowning.

thst's why the Channel crossings are easier to police and why it's seen as a priority, because of a) the criminal activithy as migrants across continetns can't bring a channel-worthy boat with them b) there are only certain points viable for the crossing c) the risk to life of people persuaded for whatever reaon that they need to get to the UK

Skydancer

Delene100

My question, why are the French not manning points of entry into France. If they didn't let them in, there would be no migrants queuing up to get to the UK.

Good point.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at these posts. 😂/😥
I’ll opt for both.

Primrose53

Casdon

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Nasty.
I did actually say credit was given to BBC by PC.

The constant bigging up of GB News and everything about it is wearisome when it comes to this sort of statement, because it’s not rooted in fact.

Facts? People want facts?

Facts are so last year.

Why bother with facts when conspiracy theories, rumour mongering and blatant lies are so much more interesting?

Casdon

Primrose53

Casdon

Primrose53

So the BBC paid one of the people smugglers £1200 to access the camp!

Patrick Christys is proud to report that he paid nothing on either occasion he went to the camp.
He has also said that their footage was good though.

There is no comparison between the investigations either. Grudgingly you must admit that the BBC investigation was better - unless you’d rather choke on your tea.

Nasty.
I did actually say credit was given to BBC by PC.

The constant bigging up of GB News and everything about it is wearisome when it comes to this sort of statement, because it’s not rooted in fact.

It feels like banging on the old tin drum trying to find a factoid that bigs up GB news.

Look, GB has a lot going for it, and a lot of people enjoy the chat and everyday programmes.

But why chose this particular issue to try and "defend" GB news on? Clearly the BBC on this and a number of other major issues has the person power, the reporters, the investigative journalism to do what GB cannot do and isnt really diseginea to do.

GB news is more like an intelligent and far more complex version of the DM.

(Everytime I pop into see Mrs Next door, she's in the garden reading the DM and I see the oh so predictable headlines on the issues of the day. Not a shred of original thinking.

diseginea = designed

Nothing will happen as usual
The Government has absolutely no intention of stopping these people whatsover. They love them!

And so do the BBC and Channel 4. Whatever the say.

We really need to get out of various not fit for purpose, silly outdated treaties to make progress and get a new government with balls

I'm not sure I've seen it said here but obviously if you take 18 months or two years to get as far as Calais, any disincentive is going to take ages to really take effect. This means that however hard it is to get across from France has already had

Oops. Sorry. Posted accidentally

Was really saying that there's already been so much struggle and hardship and emotional energy invested in the journey it must be really hard to give up when you can see Dover on a clear day.

If people could apply to come here legally, from near where they are coming from, you may find it's easier to settle elsewhere when you know you will be rejected in the UK.

This however assumes saie and legal routes...

WithNobsOnIt

Nothing will happen as usual
The Government has absolutely no intention of stopping these people whatsover. They love them!

And so do the BBC and Channel 4. Whatever the say.

We really need to get out of various not fit for purpose, silly outdated treaties to make progress and get a new government with balls

Ridiculous 🤣

"they love them!!!"

growstuff

escaped

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Because I’m a realist?

Okay. Let’s be even handed here growstuff.
Shall we both review the numbers in say, 3 months?

😂😂😂

In the meantits costing (conservative estimate) £6million a day.

We must need our bumps feeling.

If the new scheme ever works, it certainly won't be thanks to France. They're paying nothing towards it again, not even a cent.

To be honest, why should they? It's not their problem if people want to leave their country.

The ‘refugees’ are supposed to stop in the first safe country but France just pushes them on. They don’t care how many drown as long as they dispose of them. The French have accepted millions and done nothing. Not exactly surprising!

Trump is sending his captive people to Rwanda.

No, there is nothing to say they are "supposed" to stop in the first safe country. That's a myth.

There is, sadly, no point correcting the first safe country fiction.

Those who want to will go on propagating this falsehood growstuff.

Kamiso
Just for you.

www.refugee-action.org.uk/about/facts-about-refugees/

Following this with interest - and good for the BBC for doing this.