I wish both of them would disappear as neither has any clue what they are doing.
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How Does Robber Reeves Do Her Sums?
(91 Posts)Because in just over 12 months the 22billion "black hole" ,which was her all-purpose excuse for financially crucifying pensioners, has managed to become 41billion.
Almost doubled?!!!!!!!
Show your working Rachel from Accounts.
Chocolatelovinggran
I haven't entered the fray here but I do want to say how much I dislike the playground- type name calling.
The Chancellor of the Exchequer is not Robber Reeves, and the PM is not Two Tier anything.
I disliked Prime Minister Johnson most heartily, but did not feel the need to call him a childish nickname, and refrained from referring to Ms Truss as Lettuce, or Lee Anderson as 30p Lee.
Could we speak about others in more adult terms, please.
Could we speak about others in more adult terms, please.
It's par for the course and has been for centuries.
Best message Private Eye too.
MaizieD
Let's get this right. It's not Reeves who has said that the 'black hole' has doubled to £40+ billion. It's a Think Tank, the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR).
I have no time at all for Reeves, she is a bad Chancellor. She has no idea at all about how a national economy works, nor the role of money within it. She is promoting an austerity policy (though denying that she is) as she has no idea how to promote growth in economic activity and she has no interest in achieving a more equable distribution of the nation's resources.
The 'black hole' is a figment of a great many people's imaginations but the looming depression caused by her policies will be a reality...
Thanks MaizieD.
(Although that's depressing!)
It's par for the course and has been for centuries.
Best message Private Eye too.
Yes. It’s like someone saying “it was OK to skit BJ, but it’s different when it’s a politician I like.
I have nothing to say except how I hate the awful “name “/ description Robber Reeves.
I have posted every time it is used, it is childish and derogatory.
It says more about the person using it than I can imagine.
Diane Abbott must be doing the calculations 
I can also pleased someone has used the term calculations instead of “sums”.
I am on a roll tonight.
Usedtobeblonde
I have nothing to say except how I hate the awful “name “/ description Robber Reeves.
I have posted every time it is used, it is childish and derogatory.
It says more about the person using it than I can imagine.
No, it's not pleasant, but I do like Rachel from Accounts.
It is partly due to having to backtrack on the Winter fuel debacle, and also reversing the disability benefits cuts.
The woman can't win!
Casdon
Perhaps she is more unbiased than your post? Seriously, when people make posts like this it’s just a ranting invite. I don’t intend to play.
You just are!! You have joined in, whether you like it or not!😂
She has an impossible task.
Usedtobeblonde
I have nothing to say except how I hate the awful “name “/ description Robber Reeves.
I have posted every time it is used, it is childish and derogatory.
It says more about the person using it than I can imagine.
Agreed. It really is pathetic and I ignore anything written by people who use this technique.
I agree with utbb. It is childish and says more about the person using it. Glad I don't know anyone in real life who uses these terms
Who'd want to be chancellor of the exchequer? Seems we all want better services but most don't want to pay for them. Our economy is adversely affected by world events over which we have no control. Telling the truth is likely to keep you out of power, so politicians tell lies. Most voters have little or no understanding of economics and quite a few are IMO selfish. It's the worst job I can imagine especially when trying to run an economy with as many challenges as we have in the UK currently.
Mollygo, did you read my post? In it, I pointed out that I disliked both Mr Johnson and Ms Truss ( with good reason, I could argue) but did not call them derogatory names, either.
Private Eye, a publication for which I have a soft spot, has a specialism in even - handed insults to all. They do it very well.
We are not journalists on this, so do not need to join the fray.
foxie48
Who'd want to be chancellor of the exchequer? Seems we all want better services but most don't want to pay for them. Our economy is adversely affected by world events over which we have no control. Telling the truth is likely to keep you out of power, so politicians tell lies. Most voters have little or no understanding of economics and quite a few are IMO selfish. It's the worst job I can imagine especially when trying to run an economy with as many challenges as we have in the UK currently.
It’s a job she wanted.
Are you actually endorsing politicians lies?
Labour made so many promises, they underestimated how difficult governing is as opposed to being the opposition.
As for the electorate being selfish…
foxie48
Who'd want to be chancellor of the exchequer? Seems we all want better services but most don't want to pay for them. Our economy is adversely affected by world events over which we have no control. Telling the truth is likely to keep you out of power, so politicians tell lies. Most voters have little or no understanding of economics and quite a few are IMO selfish. It's the worst job I can imagine especially when trying to run an economy with as many challenges as we have in the UK currently.
Yes, I agree with you Foxie! Well said.
She hasn’t a clue.
This government is a complete disaster, our country is being given away by Starmer and his cronies.
I am allowed my opinion and this is what I believe.
I think Rachel made the mistake of attacking as she thought, rich pensioners and then moved on to the disabled.
I am fortunate I do not have to live on the state pension alone but she would find it impossible.
In my opinion there is no shining star in any party who could tackle this tremendous job. She is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.
I have to agree about the playground language - even that is a bit of an insult to most children. And where does it get us? Do we learn anything? The extremist rhetoric (from both sides) simply shows people's bias. People who start with a belief and don't want anyone to tell them anything differently.
Stephen Millard, the Deputy Director of the think tank whose views are being spun by far-left and far-right alike also laid a lot of the blame on President Trump "coming in and creating a huge amounts of uncertainty with tariffs". Where has this been mentioned by the right-wing fanatics or the far-left for that matter?
The old phrase "When America Sneezes, the rest of the World catches a cold" should be ringing in our ears as, whatever we any government did here they would still have both the backlash of Brexit and the problems from America, a couple of wars, 14 years of the running down of the economy, and the increasing wealth inequality to cope with.
When the childish comments go and reasonable discussion is in place that acknowledges our actual widespread ignorance in this area it might be worth coming back to.
I think she uses an Abacus turns it upside down gives it a shake and "hey presto"
Call her what you like, she is the Chanceller of the Exchequer and her decisions are important. Personally, I doubt any Party's ability to restore significant economic growth. We have been living on debt for decades and the reckoning is imminent.
Grantanow
Call her what you like, she is the Chanceller of the Exchequer and her decisions are important. Personally, I doubt any Party's ability to restore significant economic growth. We have been living on debt for decades and the reckoning is imminent.
Sorry Grantanow whilst the electorate believe the debt fairytale, the Government of the day will get away with austerity measures.
GrannyGravy13
Grantanow
Call her what you like, she is the Chanceller of the Exchequer and her decisions are important. Personally, I doubt any Party's ability to restore significant economic growth. We have been living on debt for decades and the reckoning is imminent.
Sorry Grantanow whilst the electorate believe the debt fairytale, the Government of the day will get away with austerity measures.
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"Are you actually endorsing politicians lies?!
Absoutely not, just telling it how it is!
"Labour made so many promises, they underestimated how difficult governing is as opposed to being the opposition."
Did they? I don't think so but they could not guess what events were round the corner, just as the previous government couldn't. My comments are general, GG13 not specific to Labour
"As for the electorate being selfish…"
Yes, I think many are. Some have gained huge advantages from being born into a well off family and don't want to share those advantages with others less fortunate. I think that's "selfish".
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