Palestine Action demonstrators may never be able to visit the US or work in education if they take part in this weekend's protest, the Met Police have warned.
I certainly do not know everything there is to know about this subject.
And I certainly would not be joining in.
But this all feels very wrong to me.
Big consequences for protesting.
Claremont
Like this 'useful idiot', 87 years old Stephen Kapos. Do liste to him, he knows more than most of us on here
youtu.be/v4OdkaTqmDs?feature=shared
So Stehen Kapos was previously arrested. Been looking for your reply Oreo, is he a 'useful idiot'?
That’s something most of us could agree on I think AGAA4 or at least the sensible on here.
I have read the Hansard report on Palestine Action. Labour had no choice but to proscribe them. There is more to know about this group.
I'm not a law breaker so wouldn't support that particular group but felt sorry for the elderly Holocaust survivors who were arrested who may not understand that what they were doing was wrong.
Support Palestine by all means but not this proscribed group.
Quote Oreo Sat 09-Aug-25 15:17:16
Anniebach
The attack on Israel 7th October 3023 was a Palestine action
I don’t think a lot of people fancy dwelling on that do they?
Seems not, reminds me of Basil “don’t mention the war”
Anniebach
The attack on Israel 7th October 3023 was a Palestine action
I don’t think a lot of people fancy dwelling on that do they?
The attack on Israel 7th October 3023 was a Palestine action
Loads of idiots arrested in London today sat with placards supporting Palestine Action.Iran will be pleased that they turned out, hamas too.
They may find a fine not so much fun as being arrested, or a criminal record.
Ilovecheese
It is still the same in principle. You support the farmers so you don't object to them ĥolding up the traffic.
I support you could protest against farmers holding up the traffic by not supporting them in any way at all.
You could stop buying the food they produce for a start. By buying it, you are supporting them.
fancythat
I think you are contradicting yourself Oreo.
On the one hand you agree with peaceful protests.
On the other, you dont appear to agree with peaceful protestors at a Palestine Action Protest.
[yes i know it is against the law to be there, but I am talking about a principle].
The principle of peaceful protesting about, well anything.
I thought I would be persuaded by myself and others against peaceful protesting. Instead, I have gone the other way.
No, I think the contradiction is in your post, fancythat.
As Palestine Action is a proscribed organisation, if they go out on the streets protesting, they are breaking the law of the land.
Ok if I accept your suggested “principle”
Then how can we live with global warming - food production by the farmers is going to be very difficult, or cities being drowned is going to be a tad inconvenient, wild fires will kill so much flora and fauna not to mention peoples houses/businesses or the resultant mass migration from areas which become impossible to live in.
That is my “principle” so I support the stopping of fossil fuels.
But I do not support in general breaking the law, although history tells me that in order to bring change citizens have had to resort to law breaking, and have arguably succeeded.
It is still the same in principle. You support the farmers so you don't object to them ĥolding up the traffic.
Whitewavemark2
Same principle though 😄😄
We can live without the picture vandals, super glue fanatics etc. Just Stop Oil did little to nothing to get people onboard with their messsge.
We cannot live without our farmers…
Whitewavemark2
Same principle though 😄😄
Only if you think stopping people getting to funerals, hospital appointments is ok?
Same principle though 😄😄
Ilovecheese
The farmers protests had a lot of support on Gransnet, even though they blocked the traffic. So I don't think hypocrisy can only be levelled at one side of the debate.
They blocked roads yes, for a couple of hours. They were respectful to the public. They didn’t glue themselves to the pavements.
They didn’t stop ambulances going about their business.
They didn’t block the busiest motorway in the south of England for several days, preventing people attending hospital appointments and family funerals.
The farmers protests had a lot of support on Gransnet, even though they blocked the traffic. So I don't think hypocrisy can only be levelled at one side of the debate.
Quote Allira Sat 09-Aug-25 13:09:18
GrannyGravy13
Waive a Palestinian flag and apparently you are a peaceful person.
Wave the English flag and you are a far right troublemaker…
Ironic, isn't it!!
Wave a Star of David flag and the police accuse you of bring overtly Jewish! Wear a school uniform of Jewish school in the UK in 2025 and risk being abused in the streets.
Last year a Jew leaving a synagogue wearing a kippah was described by met police officer as “openly Jewish”
Some Suffragettes imprisoned were force fed
The government in the UK doesn’t do these things lightly.
Am not contradicting myself at all.Where it’s a legal protest and it’s peaceful, which some are and some aren’t it’s fine.
If it’s supporting a proscribed group then it isn’t fine and you will be arrested.
Is that crystal?
I think you are contradicting yourself Oreo.
On the one hand you agree with peaceful protests.
On the other, you dont appear to agree with peaceful protestors at a Palestine Action Protest.
[yes i know it is against the law to be there, but I am talking about a principle].
The principle of peaceful protesting about, well anything.
I thought I would be persuaded by myself and others against peaceful protesting. Instead, I have gone the other way.
fancythat
Lathyrus3
Galaxy
Yes but you can't only do it for your own causes, so if you support protest, it has to be across the board, whether it is outside an abortion clinic, a protest led by Tommy Robinson, etc etc.
Yes that’s the rub isn’t it?
This is what I mean.
And it works in reverse too.
If peaceful, I think they should all be allowed.
Suffragettes weren't all peaceful, were they?
So what would you suggest Fancythat That the MET has a nice little chat with them telling them to play nicely 🤷♀️
Have you ever been on a protest March? I have.
I was on this one in Colchester. It was very peaceful and generally light heated.
In a split second it turned into mayhem.
My point being, you might think your cause is worthy and just want to show the powers that be how you feel.
You appear very naive and uneducated in the way these groups work.
BTW, what if those people who broke into Brize Norton had planted an incendiary device on the military plane?
GrannyGravy13
Waive a Palestinian flag and apparently you are a peaceful person.
Wave the English flag and you are a far right troublemaker…
Ironic, isn't it!!
Wave a Star of David flag and the police accuse you of bring overtly Jewish! Wear a school uniform of Jewish school in the UK in 2025 and risk being abused in the streets.
Waive a Palestinian flag and apparently you are a peaceful person.
Wave the English flag and you are a far right troublemaker…
Palestine Action has been proscribed therefore they are not allowed to hold protests. That is the Law,
It was voted for by the vast majority of MPs; that is democracy.
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