‘Palestine Action’ marchers - arrests today.

I SO agree, FGT.
There was an interesting article in the paper yesterday about the disinformation Hamas is spreading, swallowed whole by the general population. Goebels would beproud!

Tbh I think the government has made a huge mistake with this decision. In common with most I'm more than happy to see people who commit criminal damage being arrested but people should be allowed to protest peacefully. The police need to focus on arresting the people who do real damage to our society by whipping up support with lies and distortions of the truth.

I share your thoughts on this foxid48, though I’m prepared to consider Yvette Cooper might have relevant information. It feels horribly like her Blair-Iraq moment. We all absolutely knew we shouldn’t invade. Many of us marched “not in my name”. I marched with a group of friends.

I don’t intend to join the Palestine Action demos. It isn’t so clear cut for me. It does feel excessive, the proscribing I mean

foxie48

Tbh I think the government has made a huge mistake with this decision. In common with most I'm more than happy to see people who commit criminal damage being arrested but people should be allowed to protest peacefully. The police need to focus on arresting the people who do real damage to our society by whipping up support with lies and distortions of the truth.

Yes

By proscribing Palestine Action the government have given the police no choice but to arrest those attending a protest by them. The police should not be blamed for carrying out orders from the government.

AGAA4

By proscribing Palestine Action the government have given the police no choice but to arrest those attending a protest by them. The police should not be blamed for carrying out orders from the government.

Yes

It is still legal to protest against the actions of Israel in Gaza, just don’t go to an organised rally in the name of Palestine Action Group or hold up banners with Palestine Action Group on them.

It really is that simple.

It has always been legal to hold peaceful protests, throughout our life time.

It is what liberal democracies have always stood for

Until recently.

I noticed a group of Rabbis in NY were arrested for peaceful protest.

I would not like that freedom reduced.

Quote Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Aug-25 08:51:13
It has always been legal to hold peaceful protests, throughout our life time.

It is what liberal democracies have always stood for

Until recently.

I noticed a group of Rabbis in NY were arrested for peaceful protest.

I would not like that freedom reduced.

Damaging RAF Aircraft is peaceful ? surely not

No annie 🙄 that isn’t what I said was it?

Mind you I had to tip a grin watching the police arresting all the pensioners.

Some had to be helped onto the Black Maria or it’s equivellant😊😄😄😄

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Aug-25 09:06:30
No annie 🙄 that isn’t what I said was it?

Mind you I had to tip a grin watching the police arresting all the pensioners.

Some had to be helped onto the Black Maria or it’s equivellant😊😄😄😄

Elderly supporting a. Proscribed terrorist organisation are amusing for you, would 18 year olds amuse you too?

Silly pensioners.At their age they should know better.
I expect they won’t get more than a slap on the risk caution.
If they persist in their support for a violent group tho it will be more.
There is an appeal coming up we all know but only if and when a court decide on it then people should stay away from this group and giving their support to it.

Maybe it will be classed as incitement.

I suppose the "silly" pensioners are sick to death of seeing children dying of malnutrition and people being deliberately shot at food trucks, on their screens every night, and this is the only way to support Palestine. Perhaps this will convince the Government to apply sanctions and rescind arms licences.

Seems incitement can cause amusement

mrsmeldrew

I suppose the "silly" pensioners are sick to death of seeing children dying of malnutrition and people being deliberately shot at food trucks, on their screens every night, and this is the only way to support Palestine. Perhaps this will convince the Government to apply sanctions and rescind arms licences.

Yes

mrsmeldrew

I suppose the "silly" pensioners are sick to death of seeing children dying of malnutrition and people being deliberately shot at food trucks, on their screens every night, and this is the only way to support Palestine. Perhaps this will convince the Government to apply sanctions and rescind arms licences.

There are a multitude of ways to protest and get one’s point over to our government and others without marching/protesting under the banner of Palestine Action Group

PAG have been proscribed as a terrorist organisation, I am really struggling to understand why it is necessary to hold up their banner?

Why not just peacefully protest without publicising this terrorist group?

Because a group of people do not agree with the proscription.

They were the ones protesting peacefully.

The decision to arrest them all was ridiculous.

Now don’t take it from this post that I agree as a general rule with anything other than peaceful protest. .

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Aug-25 09:48:39
Because a group of people do not agree with the proscription.

They were the ones protesting peacefully.

The decision to arrest them all was ridiculous.

Now don’t take it from this post that I agree as a general rule with anything other than peaceful protest. .

They held placards stating they were supporting “Palestine Action” proscribed in July

Yes - protesting peacefully

Whitewavemark2

Yes - protesting peacefully

So would you agree with peaceful protesters holding up placards in support of Hamas, Hezbollah or ISIS?

A proscribed group is just that a proscribed group, or is it because you and others agree with their policies and actions?

It is the Law. These people were protesting against a law, voted for by Parliament with an overwhelming majority.
Apparently as they consider themselves to be above the law, one hopes they are prepared to accept the consequences.
However , as it is Lord Hermer, a Human rights lawyer who was speedily ennobled to enter the House of Lords and be appointed, unelected and with no previous Parliamentary experience, as Attorney General, to decide whether or not to prosecute hundreds of protesters arrested for supporting Palestine Action, it is difficult to have faith in his probity.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 11-Aug-25 10:02:20
Yes - protesting peacefully

You support anyone waving a banner stating they support any
criminal action if they do so peacefully? your choice

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2

Yes - protesting peacefully

So would you agree with peaceful protesters holding up placards in support of Hamas, Hezbollah or ISIS?

A proscribed group is just that a proscribed group, or is it because you and others agree with their policies and actions?

I would not agree the peaceful protesters, in fact I would abhors the sentiment - but providing they were not violating the free speech law ( incitement etc) I would never the less uphold their right to protest.

I have been thinking of the Greenham Common women’s protest, and interested to hear of a letter to the Times from a Wing Commander Andrew Brooks in Greenham at the time of these protesters. Unfortunately I can’t reprint it here because it is behind a paywall.

However, basically what he was saying that the protest which went on for 10 years was largely peaceful, but there were frequently break-ins and criminal damage done. But what he said was that the women’s freedom of speech was always upheld.