Unfolding Genocide

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Am interesting development.

Babs03

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Am interesting development.

Sadly, summonsing the ambassador will make no difference to anything.

No you’re probs right but it does underline how Israel is becoming a rogue state.

Anniebach

Quote Babs03 Thu 21-Aug-25 18:19:15
Anniebach
So every Jew in Europe at that time was a Holocaust survivor?
You’ve lost me there Annie.
Who is saying every Jew in Europe was a holocaust survivor?

I read the following-

My parents, in contrast, had no interest in Israel. After the Second World War, they remained in Hungary, joined the Communist Party and lived professional lives influenced by left-wing, anti-racist views. Contact with family in Israel was rare (and considered risky in Stalinist Hungary), and they thought them strange.

Born in Budapest in July 1937, I was separated from my parents and hidden as a child under the Swiss Red Cross and Hungarian Protestant church, which saved over 2,000 Jewish children. My mother was in a girl’s place and my father, a doctor, was part of the Kasztner train project but never reached Switzerland – Hitler discovered the plan. He was held in Belsen as a hostage, not an inmate, and was allowed to act as a doctor. He saw people beaten to death and frozen bodies stacked like logs. Like the Palestinians today, I experienced fear and destruction all around.

I've watched the whole two hour video. He said that Nazis didn't start coming for Hungarian Jews seriously until 1944, although Hungary itself had antisemitic laws in place for about a decade before that. Hungary and Germany were allies.

When Germany invaded Hungary, there was an agreement that a thousand or so of the most influential Hungarian Jews would be saved - Kapos' father was one of them.

What happened then was that they were rounded up (including Stephen) and put in camps where they were made to do war work for the Nazis. One of those camps was in Theresienstadt, which Kapos describes as "quite liberal" in comparison. It wasn't a death camp. The Red Cross (based in Switzerland) inspected the camp every so often and decided it wasn't inhumane. Kapos describes one of those visits, when the children were given activities and the food was fine (he describes it as a "show camp") - the next day a group of Jews was sent to Auschwitz. That's what is meant by "under the Swiss Red Cross".

Babs03

No you’re probs right but it does underline how Israel is becoming a rogue state.

The article shows how inept and unsuitable Lammy is as foreign minister. A total embarrassment for the UK.

ronib

Babs03

No you’re probs right but it does underline how Israel is becoming a rogue state.

The article shows how inept and unsuitable Lammy is as foreign minister. A total embarrassment for the UK.

What else could he have done?

It is not enfolding it is. The world looks on.

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Definitely antisemitic

Why on Earth would criticism of the prison camps and comparison of them to the prison camps in Germany be anti-Semitic.

It has nothing to do with being Jewish! How many times does this have to be repeated.

I have an absolute right as does the rest of the world to criticise the Israeli state and its abhorrent actions, and the world IS criticising it.

With regards to the Aran and superior chosen people - that is the attitude that the first hand witnesses found very prevalent amongst the German population as they fought their way into Germany. They didnt say they were chosen by God. You have made that connection.

You need to read writings by Professor Beinart a Jewish academic to understand what being “chosen by god” actually means.
annie you see anti-semitism in everything. If you knew anything about me you would absolutely know that I am not and never could be anti-Semitic. It is so sad to see such things said.

A joint statement signed by aid workers in Gaza including Medicine sans Frontieres, Save the Children and Oxfam say they can see their colleagues wasting away as the famine grows worse. They join the queues for food like others risking being shot by the IDF.

MSF

“In short, we are witnessing a genocide. Through deliberate actions—including forced displacement, annexation, and mass killings—Israel is systematically destroying the conditions necessary for Palestinian life. Much of Gaza's civilian infrastructure has been intentionally destroyed.”

Oxfam

“The Israeli military has killed tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza, including thousands of children. Entire families and neighbourhoods have been destroyed.
All of Gaza is facing a man-made famine. Starvation is widespread, and children and families are already dying from hunger.
Israel is blocking all but a trickle of life-saving aid into Gaza. People are struggling to access basics like food, water, medicine and shelter.
People desperately trying to collect aid have been shot and mown down with tanks by Israeli forces.l

Red Cross

“After months without any aid able to enter, Gaza faces a critical risk of famine.
2.1 million people face extreme hunger.
People – especially children, pregnant women and the elderly - are being treated in hospitals for severe malnutrition.
More than 61,000 people have died and at least 151,000 have been injured in Gaza since October 2023.
Since the launch of new aid distribution sites in May, mass casualty events have rapidly increased.
The Red Cross field hospital has treated more than 3,400 weapon-wounded patients since the establishment of new aid distribution sites in May – more than the whole of 2024.”

The Israeli are trying to force people in Gaza City to move south.

They simply do not have access to the calories needed to undertake the miles of travel.

Perhaps Israel might consider fuelling them up for the journey - of course they can always cut it out once the Palestinians and get to where they want to imprison them.

Hamas now have a choice, give back all hostages and agree to disarm to end the war, it’s on them now.
Israel is giving residents of Gaza plenty of notice to leave Gaza City.
Don’t believe anything you hear from hamas sources.

Anniebach, I noticed that you speak in the present tense "FACT - Jews are always spoken of as Chosen by God".
May I ask by whom?

Even if Hamas give back the hostages and concede defeat Israel will still carry on with their aim of pushing the Gazans into camps in the south, which will be prisons run by the IDF.

Giving plenty of notice big deal, and what's going to become of those too weak to leave .

Of course it will AGAA I find it difficult to comprehend that anyone could believe otherwise.

Israel is giving residents notice to leave Gaza City. Those who have access to transport can. What happens to anyone who who is immobile for any reason and can't leave without assistance? Will the bombing be held off until everyone is evacuated?

People who are starving do not have the ability to undertake such an onerous journey.

Parsley3

Israel is giving residents notice to leave Gaza City. Those who have access to transport can. What happens to anyone who who is immobile for any reason and can't leave without assistance? Will the bombing be held off until everyone is evacuated?

There will always be those who refuse to leave but various aid agencies have said they will help to move those with any difficulties.

That’s why so much notice has been given.Any country with genocide in mind would simply have gone ahead already.

Denial - the first refuge

With the whole world watching Israel is wanting to be seen to protect life but they didn't do that when they first attacked Gaza. So many innocent Palestinians were slaughtered.
It is obvious now what Israel is doing. They are carrying on with their aim to rid Gaza of Palestinians.
Using starvation and forcing people from their homes is their method now to clear the land.