Unfolding Genocide

What do I think? I have sorrow for anyone who suffers an attack of any sort, particularly that described so graphically by Annie.
An individual story is remembered, because we can imagine ourselves or our loved ones in that situation. I still remember Alan the Syrian 4 year old with his red and blue tee shirt and shorts, drowned on the beach. His heartbroken father.
I still think of Hind , the 5 year old girl trapped in the car I think with her dead parents, begging for help but more than 300 shots into the car killed her and the ambulance personnel as they came to her aid. Why the need for 300;shots, it speaks volumes about the attitude if the soldiers concerned.
It’s easier to be empathise with a single individual than unknown tens of thousands, but each and every one of these were everything to their loved ones.
War is cruel. People can be cruel. . If I had a faith I might pray maybe, but I don’t, so I won’t.
I live by ‘do as you would be done by’ , probably a humanist.

Any life taken brutally is a tragedy whether Israeli, Palestinian or anybody.

Yes all human life is sacred but I need time to think through the evil of Hamas, the distress I experience now is so like the
distress I felt / feel of the Holocaust, humans can sink this low is unbelievable yet is believable because it’s happened and is still happening

The world is beautiful and only man is vile.

The content of Annie's post @ 17.51 is truly awful ronib and I and others have condemned over and over again the actions of Hamas on that dreadful day.

When I see the constant reiteration of the horrific crimes of Hamas and the Holocaust being raised immediately after there's a post, about the truly awful treatment being handed out to Palestinians in Gaza and in the West Bank, it suggests to me that Israel's behaviour is being excused and/or condoned.

There are no Hamas in the West Bank, only Palestinians who had nothing to do with that monstrous attack and they are being driven out of their homes. Some are being beaten and some are being killed by those who hate them just because they're Palestinians and they want their land.

HAMAS' strength is concentrated in the Gaza Strip and areas of the West Bank. HAMAS has a military wing known as the Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades that has conducted many anti-Israel attacks in both Israel and the Palestinian territories since the 1990s.

Anniebach

What can money do to help / free the hostages,

Oh Annie..one just cant get anywhere...

I give you a dedicated group whose website makes quite clear how money is used and how to campaign and you could do your bit

Then you apparently - bitterly complain there is no point?

Wyllow money cannot release the hostages or bring peace , so many charities already established which haven’t achieved these.
I did not bitterly complain I stated a fact.

How many times does it have to be repeated that the hostages would have been released in march had Israel not broken its agreement at the last minute.
Hamas has again offered a deal to release hostages this last week but once again Israel refuses. If Israel was concerned about the hostages they would agree to negotiate. They clearly arent.

It’s obvious Netanyahu’s plan is to continue the war in order to get rid of Gazans one way or another and to build some sort of luxury resort with their friend trump.
In the meantime while attention is on gaza the West Bank, continues to be illegally settled by Zionist Israelis and killings and violence are increasing daily.

The proposal received by Israel cannot be accepted by any responsible government,” the official told the media, without giving any further details.

“Hamas is setting impossible conditions that mean a complete failure to meet the war goals, and an inability to release the hostages,” he said.

The main organization representing the families of hostages also rejected the reported deal, saying it would not include the return of all of the captives and a final end to the war.

A flurry of reports cited sources saying that a new ceasefire deal was in the offing, similar to previous agreements, under which fighting in the Gaza Strip would halt for a period of time during which Israeli hostages would be released and humanitarian aid to the enclave boosted.

The above is from The Times Of Israel , May 2025

“The proposal received by Israel cannot be accepted by any responsible government “ the official told the media without giving any further details.

Says it all really. No details just a flat Mo.
If that was May this year it was clearly referring yet another plea by the Palestinians for a ceasefire.

No not mo.

A plea by Palestinian Hamas

The clue lies with the non release of all of the hostages?? Israel was given a flawed agreement.

The main organisation for families rejected the reported deal

Says it all really

While Netanyahu can say he is fighting for the hostages he has what he feels is a legitimate reason to carry on with taking all of Gaza.
He will carry on until he gets what he really wants and that is all Palestinians out of Gaza. This is with the approval of Trump who wants Gaza too.

Quote AGAA4 Tue 02-Sept-25 10:56:08
While Netanyahu can say he is fighting for the hostages he has what he feels is a legitimate reason to carry on with taking all of Gaza.
He will carry on until he gets what he really wants and that is all Palestinians out of Gaza. This is with the approval of Trump who wants Gaza too.

Are you quoting Netanyahu? no you are not, Israel are not taking all of Gaza, they are fighting the Palestinian Hamas who built tunnels under hospitals, schools etc to hide their terrorists in

Yes I am quoting Netanyahu as he is the mouthpiece for men like Ben-Gvir and Smotrich who have said that.

Some of the hostages would have been released ronib and that's better than none.

Israel are not taking all of Gaza I agree Annie, they're not merely taking it they're flattening it.

For you perhaps Smileless2012 but not for the families of the hostages starving with Hamas. This proposal suggests to me that Hamas has no intention of seeking peace and will fight to the end with the support of a number of countries.
Why did Hamas agree to the flattening of Gaza by default?

Anniebach

The main organisation for families rejected the reported deal

Says it all really

No it doesn’t Annie, probably both sides are coming up with unrealistic conditions, is like this with such difficult negotiations, is a dance around what will eventually work for both sides. Nobody can just give up at the first hurdle, there has to be more dialogue.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cde3eyzdr63o.amp

Am not expecting this to be taken seriously by some but if the BBC cannot be trusted this story is being carried by the majority of news outlets.

Probably both sides ? a welcome change from “Netanyahu did, said, ordered etc,

So many accusations against Netanyahu here, if true makes him more powerful than Putin

Anniebach

Probably both sides ? a welcome change from “Netanyahu did, said, ordered etc,

So many accusations against Netanyahu here, if true makes him more powerful than Putin

He is extremely powerful right now with backing from super power US.