Ricky Jones

love0c

Why has he not been found guilty and now in prison?

No idea. Ask the jury.

Totally amazed he got off with that statement, tbh.

The jury will know why.

Ilovecheese

The jury will know why.

Exactly! I was surprised, but I wasn't in the jury room (and I doubt if anybody was) and I don't know what his defence was.

I would have thought being videoed shouting cut their throats which has been all over social media for the last twelve months was inciting violence.

But hey ho, he’s a Labour councillor of Asian descent, not a blonde conservative women…

Did I imagine it or did Jo Brand really say that she wished somebody had thrown battery acid over Nigel Farage and got away with it.

The blonde woman who threw the milkshake got a suspended jail sentence, a fine, costs and 120 hours unpaid work.

No you didn’t imagine it Magenta8

He was never going to be imprisoned. It's a complete farce of a justice system. As GG13 says, he's a Labour councillor of Asian descent and not a blonde conservative woman. Speaks volumes doesn't it ?

How can anybody make such serious accusations about the British judicial system when they know sweet fa about the detail of the individual case? Anarchy will rule this country soon if people have such little respect for the law. Judges and juries make many decisions I don’t agree with, but that does not mean I think they are corrupt or politically biased.

The jury were forced to reach their verdict or were they all
members of Labour Party and all Labour supporters would
never find anyone of Asian descent guilty of anything ?
Please confirm

Casdon I have no idea why he wasn’t found guilty, but I imagine it was a legal technicality, as his words are still out there.

I know GrannyGravy13, I just think that if we don’t trust the law, even when we disagree with them, we might as well pack our bags.

Well put Casdon
I’ve been involved in trials where a guilty finding was expected but not guilty found
It’s not uncommon

This idea of two teir justice is so Trumpian

Anarchy will happen if people lose faith in organisations, but that has already happened. For me it is like watching a car crash, shouting that the car is going to crash and everyone saying oh its fine.

I’m not sure your views are representative of the views of the public at large though Galaxy?

Well my views would be that no one should be imprisoned for words except in very few cases and his wasn't one of them, I say this whilst also thinking he is a vile man. It has however given a good example of the strategy people should use when charged with 'hate speech' and I am sure people will pay attention to that in the future.

I totally understand and somewhat agree with you Galaxy this verdict will fan the flames of the disenfranchised.

I think there’s a difference between the correct judicial decision in accord with the law being made and respected for the law being upheld, and peoples views about whether the law is actually correct or not.

GrannyGravy13

I would have thought being videoed shouting cut their throats which has been all over social media for the last twelve months was inciting violence.

But hey ho, he’s a Labour councillor of Asian descent, not a blonde conservative women…

Apparently (and I wasn't there, so I'm only going by what I read), he was referring to people who had been putting National Front stickers on railway carriages with razor blades stuck to the back of them.

growstuff I think it’s irrelevant who he was referring to and/or advocating for their throats to be cut.

The video footage is still out there for all and sundry to see.

Inciting violence is just that, incitement to commit a crime/

Casdon

How can anybody make such serious accusations about the British judicial system when they know sweet fa about the detail of the individual case? Anarchy will rule this country soon if people have such little respect for the law. Judges and juries make many decisions I don’t agree with, but that does not mean I think they are corrupt or politically biased.

The thing is…it’s there for all to see, on film, him and his microphone saying what he did and making the fingers across the throat gesture for emphasis.
Death threats.
But he got away with it didn’t he?🤬

Well that sticker story has been used in every free speech debate going back years so I will view it with a little bit of scepticism. They hurled that accusation at the feminists a while back.

See my later post Oreo, it’s the suggestion that the decision was not in accord with the law that I was disputing, I was not suggesting that I supported what he said.

Is it any different from the large numbers of people advocating throwing people out of dinghies to drown, or asking for gunships in the Channel and armed troops on the beaches? A certain type of patriot really wants to see people dead. They are currently really enjoying the floods in Pakistan.